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Powell and Kissinger Back Obama on Iran
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Five former U.S. state secretaries urge Iran talks
REUTERS
Reuters North American News Service
Sep 15, 2008 19:11 EST
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Five former U.S. secretaries of state said Monday the next American administration should talk to Iran, a foe President Bush has generally shunned as part of an "axis of evil."
Engaging Iran is important because Washington's military options against Tehran are unsatisfactory, said the diplomats, who worked for Republican and Democratic administrations.
The five -- Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, Warren Christopher, James Baker and Henry Kissinger -- all said they favored talking to Iran as part of a strategy to stop Tehran's development of a nuclear weapons program.
"Frankly the military options here are very poor. We don't want to go down that route," said Christopher, who worked for former President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1997.
Powell, who worked for Bush from 2001 to 2005, said U.S. officials in Bush's first term had held low-level talks with the Iranians until 2003 "and then it was stopped."
"I agree with Madeleine, and I suspect my other colleagues, that we should try to talk to them," Powell said during a forum hosted by The George Washington University and taped for broadcast on CNN.
Albright, who was secretary of state in the second Clinton administration, had just told the group: "I believe we need to engage with Iran. I think the whole point is you try to engage and deal with countries that you have problems with."
Dealing with Iran has become an issue in the November presidential election campaign, with Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain sparring over Obama's stated readiness to talk to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other U.S. adversaries if elected president.
McCain has criticized Obama's stand, saying it shows naivete and inexperience.
The United States cut diplomatic ties with Iran in 1980, a year after an Islamic revolution toppled U.S.-backed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and months after militant students seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held its staff hostage.
Iran has been on the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism for years. Bush has been calling Iran a part of an axis of evil since 2002, and has refused to rule out using military force to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear bombs. Washington also accuses Iran of arming, financing and training Shi'ite militants killing U.S. forces in Iraq.
Iran denies seeking nuclear weapons and blames the U.S. occupation for the violence in Iraq.
In July, the Bush administration shifted tactics and sent an envoy to multilateral nuclear talks with Iran for the first time, seeking to underline Washington's stated position that it wants a diplomatic solution to the impasse.
Baker, who worked for former President George H.W. Bush -- the current president's father -- said talking to the Iranians might be one way to get the message across that the United States could always aim its strategic nuclear arsenal at Iran if Iran developed nuclear weapons and aimed them at the United States or Israel.
"They would understand that, I think," Baker said. (Editing by Mohammad Zargham)
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Caused quite a ripple when the subject came up (I was there), considering that three of the five worked for Republican administrations. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
Very interesting. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| CNN filmed it - I think it's supposed to air on Saturday. Is definitely worth the watch though. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | said talking to the Iranians might be one way to get the message across that the United States could always aim its strategic nuclear arsenal at Iran if Iran developed nuclear weapons and aimed them at the United States or Israel.
"They would understand that, I think," Baker said. |
did anyone read this part? i gaurantee you Kissinger, Powell and Christoper agrees with him. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| God forbid you dont wanna talk to your enemy now do you?are you crazy?I mean come on Iran wants to wipe Isreal off the map and they hate us for our freedom.:rolleyes: |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
did anyone read this part? i gaurantee you Kissinger, Powell and Christoper agrees with him. |
And? Just goes to show that diplomacy isn't the same thing as appeasement (a popular argument against Obama emanating from the right wing blogosphere). |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Back on the SecState conversation, the best part had to be when they were discussing the right of the US to intervene in humanitarian crises. Albright obviously argued "yes" but James Baker refused to give a solid answer, so Christiane Amanpour pressed the point. Baker finally threw his hands up in the air and said "well I never called Darfur a genocide!"
Colin Powell calmly raised his hand and said "I did."
Definitely catch it on Saturday night (9 PM EST) if you can. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
diplomacy isn't the same thing as appeasement |
Obambi is the only candidate since Kucinich dropped out of the Primary that has actually held positions on both. who knows where stands at this particular moment. like Matt Damon said, "i really want to know":rolleyes: so of course Barak is going to be hammered by the right whatever he settles on. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
Obambi is the only candidate since Kucinich dropped out of the Primary that has actually held positions on both. who knows where stands at this particular moment. like Matt Damon said, "i really want to know":rolleyes: so of course Barak is going to be hammered by the right whatever he settles on. |
He's clarified his comments about a hundred times, you just have to pay attention.
Nice to see you stoop to the "Obambi" card though - if you've got nothing to use to promote your own candidate, may as well take cheap shots at the other one, eh? |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
Obambi is the only candidate since Kucinich dropped out of the Primary that has actually held positions on both. who knows where stands at this particular moment. like Matt Damon said, "i really want to know":rolleyes: so of course Barak is going to be hammered by the right whatever he settles on. |
endangered species
natural selection |
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