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is logic 8 good for trance production?
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| rriparetti |
I definitly want to try producing trance more seriously than I was in Reason.
Can you tell me if Logic 8 Studio is worth spending 300-500 dollars on, even if you have like 20 bucks saved up? (Im 16, give me some slack xD)
I want to make trance, try some chillout, and make some hiphop instrumental songs.
Is logic used for trance mainly, or what. I want to know, so I can find a good DAW for my new mac.
Also, what artists, hip hop or trance, use Logic 8, just out of curiosity |
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| Eric J |
Logic is a great DAW for making any type of music, trance or otherwise. A lot of dance producers use Logic. It has great built in instruments and the effects are top notch.
That being said, there are also lots of other producers who use Ableton and Cubase, two other great DAW packages that offer features well suited to producing dance music.
You should demo each of these packages and pick the one that feels right for you. Don't worry about what other people are using because you need to make a decision based on what works for you and not someone else. |
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| Lolo |
if you don't have much money, and if you want to get logic, give express a try, for less than 200$.
While it doesn't have the huge sound library that comes with the studio edition, you still have 75-80% of all logic instruments (Sculpture missing as well as Space Designer reverb, but ES2, EXS24 fully present), minus surround mixing (which you don't need for stereo) and a few other things.
What you get with studio is a bunch of other apps such as soundtrack pro (powerful editor), compressor (AC3 5.1 file converter), waveburner (cd/mastering software), and 5 jam packs: ethnic, rhythm, orchestra, electronic kits, and the very first jam pack, for a total of 40 gb of sampled instruments.
Notice of Eviction on my latest album was entirely done in express in less than 4 hours. Of course I added some jam packs, including the orchestra. The latest Cape Town track was entirely made into logic.
You can add jam packs separately, then if you really feel that it's time to upgrade to studio, it will cost you 299$ for the upgrade, which is a good deal as it will cost you approximately the same price as the studio version on its own, 499$ MSRP.
To be honest, today I like logic even more than I was back in its glory days, even though I dropped it 2 years and a half ago, I got back to it. And now it's become the cheapest flagship sequencer/workstation on the commercial market. |
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| csfp |
Better still, go to an Apple Store if you have one somewhere near or nearish, try out Logic Pro 8 and If you like the style and integrated instruments, then If you're ready to devote to, go with Logic Studio, best value for the money.
You may also want to check Sonar and mentioned above Cubase and Ableton.
In my personal opinion Cubase 4.1 and higher has the best working environment at the moment in terms of features but Logic has a way better plugin and instrument set integrated. |
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| palm |
| u might as well buy the express caus the upgrade+express is exactly same price as a full version. |
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| csfp |
| Yes but Express lacks few major features, like the full EXS24 sampler which is awesome and its one of those instruments that are essential for a proper Logic workflow. Working with REX files is a good example. Plus with Studio edition you get a f load of loops (which is always good) and some additional applications (like Soundtrack Pro 2 ... which in my case doesn't launch, but I hope it's a matter of waiting for a patch :whip: ) |
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| jason_bradberry |
Logic is a good way to go. It's used by so many pro's, and for good reason too. BT is a massive logic user, which has to say something about it's quality! Also Stuart Price (Jacques Lu Cont/Thin White Duke), Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Jazzy Jeff, The Roots, Sasha, DJ Revolution, Josh Wink, etc etc etc! (a very incomplete list can be found here: http://www.logicprohelp.com/vip_users.php, but there are so many more especially dance producers)
For trance, the ES2 synth which comes bundled with both Logic Pro and Logic Express is excellent, and as mentioned, the EXS24 rocks. The effects really are great too, especially the compressor, the delays and the space designer reverb - these are as good as some of the best 3rd party plugins out there. If you want to save money, then logic express will be all you need and as people have said you can always upgrade whenever youve saved up some more money. I would recommend logic from the word go, you really can't go wrong with it and it will be something you will be able to grow with through the years as you develop as a producer. |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by csfp
Yes but Express lacks few major features, like the full EXS24 sampler which is awesome and its one of those instruments that are essential for a proper Logic workflow. Working with REX files is a good example. Plus with Studio edition you get a f load of loops (which is always good) and some additional applications (like Soundtrack Pro 2 ... which in my case doesn't launch, but I hope it's a matter of waiting for a patch :whip: ) |
Express 8 imports REX and has EXS FULL. Are you sure you are talking about logic??
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| csfp |
| I was pretty sure Express had only EXS player without the possibility of creating your own instruments, I was wrong though. It might'ev been the case with earlier versions. After looking at Express review I can agree that it is a complete package. (a lot more complete than I thought at first tbh :eek: ). Sorry |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by csfp
I was pretty sure Express had only EXS player without the possibility of creating your own instruments, I was wrong though. It might'ev been the case with earlier versions. After looking at Express review I can agree that it is a complete package. (a lot more complete than I thought at first tbh :eek: ). Sorry |
You were absolutely right, the former Express has EXSP24.
My mistake, my reaction was harsh ;-) |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by jason_bradberry
Logic is a good way to go. It's used by so many pro's, and for good reason too. BT is a massive logic user, which has to say something about it's quality! Also Stuart Price (Jacques Lu Cont/Thin White Duke), Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Jazzy Jeff, The Roots, Sasha, DJ Revolution, Josh Wink, etc etc etc! (a very incomplete list can be found here: http://www.logicprohelp.com/vip_users.php, but there are so many more especially dance producers)
For trance, the ES2 synth which comes bundled with both Logic Pro and Logic Express is excellent, and as mentioned, the EXS24 rocks. The effects really are great too, especially the compressor, the delays and the space designer reverb - these are as good as some of the best 3rd party plugins out there. If you want to save money, then logic express will be all you need and as people have said you can always upgrade whenever youve saved up some more money. I would recommend logic from the word go, you really can't go wrong with it and it will be something you will be able to grow with through the years as you develop as a producer. |
Some of this is true but don't believe the hype. Just as many big names (and many in common) use Cubase. BT was (and think still is) a huge proponent of Ableton too.
Logic is superb and I think they did a great thing by lowering the price and forgetting the Dongle. I wish Cubase would do the same. I think it's overpriced and more people would buy it if it were cheaper.
Personally I prefer Cubase, just because of the interface (it seems more naturally intuitive to me) but that's because whenever I've felt myself being slowed down by the differences in Logic (how to do certain things) I've always fallen back on Cubase.
I'm sure if I looked myself in a room with Logic for a week (with no Cubase escape) I'd probably be Logic only.
Maybe I should do it.....
Also, this has been touched on by a few other forums but I've also heard some people I trust, say there is a difference in the quality of the sonic reproduction of projects in Logic and cubase. I don't want to use the term audio engine (because technically there isn't such a thing).
Anyone have thoughts on this? |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
BT was (and think still is) a huge proponent of Ableton too.
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While BT has mentioned that he has used many DAW packages over the years, I know that he mentioned that he finally switched to ProTools in the last few years...mostly because of his increasing work in the film soundtrack industry. He used to be a pretty big Logic guy, but I can see why someone doing that kind of work would make the move to ProTools, simply because he needs to share his work with other high end studios. |
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