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Biden: Paying higher taxes patriotic (pg. 2)
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Question for you hardline conservatives...
How does a country pay for a war without raising taxes?
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by taking that country's oil? |
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| DJ Shibby |
Damn right.
Let the rich pay higher taxes! |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
So in reality what the far left wants to do is tax even more that avergae American. that is unnaceptable and we must stop it |
$250k a year not your average american income. Its the top 1.5%. Your only off by about $210k kiddo.
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| josh4 |
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| The17sss |
| Charts, graphs, whatever... do you honestly believe you'll be getting a tax break and see more of your own money with Obama as president? Even if he gives that tax break to supposedly 90% of Americans in the form of an income tax break, you still have to account for his raising taxes in capital gains, corporate taxes (which are the 2nd highest in the world), payroll taxes, windfall profits tax on oil companies, and whatever else I might be leaving out. Who do you think is going to be affected by those tax increases? The same 90% of Americans that he is telling he's going to give a break too. It's like how drug cartels will allow a smaller shipment to get caught by the authorities as a diversion, while 10 miles up the beach where nobody's noticing, the real shipment that's 10 times bigger is getting delivered. Only in fantasy land should people believe raising taxes in a struggling economy is the way out. |
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| The17sss |
Don't look now, but according to Biden, paying taxes is also a religious experience...LOL. This from today, speaking to the Laborers International Union of North America:
| quote: | | “Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most,” he said. “Now it’d be different if you could make the case to me that by giving this tax cut to the very wealthy, everybody else was going to be better off. We saw what happened the last eight years when we gave that tax cut.” |
Leaving aside the ridiculous notion that a politician poses as a Catholic on social issues and still supports abortion, Catholics are taught to act as individuals to assist the poor. Nowhere in Catholic doctrine (the catechism) can you find the notion that taxes are required for this purpose. In fact, in seven out of eight references to taxes in the catechism, taxes are mentioned in context of “tax collectors”...people who today would be called Quislings or thieves, and perhaps both. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Don't look now, but according to Biden, paying taxes is also a religious experience...LOL. This from today, speaking to the Laborers International Union of North America:
Leaving aside the ridiculous notion that a politician poses as a Catholic on social issues and still supports abortion, Catholics are taught to act as individuals to assist the poor. Nowhere in Catholic doctrine (the catechism) can you find the notion that taxes are required for this purpose. In fact, in seven out of eight references to taxes in the catechism, taxes are mentioned in context of “tax collectors”...people who today would be called Quislings or thieves, and perhaps both. |
Jesus ing Christ you're just like Rush Limbaugh. And you can't ing read. Taxes as a religious experience? You're out of your mind. He didn't even come close to saying that.
Second of all, where did he say anything about the ing catechism? It's Catholic social doctrine, which stems from Vatican II - not theology.
When someone says "my religion has a philosophy that says taking care of those that can't help themselves", that in no way means "pay your taxes and go to heaven!" That's religious fundo rhetoric, which you would lap up if it came packaged with a nice little (R) in front of it. |
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| The17sss |
You're overreacting. When I said "taxes as a religious experience" i was making a tongue-in-cheek statement as a joke... obviously I don't believe Biden thinks paying taxes is a literal religious experience. Learn how to lighten up, seriously.
And he didn't say anything about the chatechism, I did. I was using it to illustrate the hypocricy of someone passing themself off as being a Catholic while supporting abortion. You read wayyyyyy too much into that post man |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Second of all, where did he say anything about the ing catechism? It's Catholic social doctrine, which stems from Vatican II - not theology. |
you're right. paying taxes is not theological. it is however a "social doctrine"...and if you are a practicing Catholic, should have no business in refering to it as a religious philosophy.
| quote: | | When someone says "my religion has a philosophy that says taking care of those that can't help themselves", that in no way means "pay your taxes and go to heaven!" |
you're right, it doesn't mean you "go to heaven". i don't think thats what 17sss was implying.
it is, however, correct in stating that Sloppy Joe Biden was refering to his religion in defending what he had said two weeks ago and since. as a Catholic he shouldn't have because according to Catholic social doctrine he's completely wrong. as usual. |
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| LatinLover |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
$250k a year not your average american income. Its the top 1.5%. Your only off by about $210k kiddo.
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Jon,
Those charts are fiction. The 250k people as I mentioned are average americans. The far left has succesfully imaged them as the super rich. When they are not. Sure, these individuals might have more lets say financial flexibility than those that earn less, but they are not wealthy under my standards. So the taxation war the far left wants to wage against them is an attack on the average american. That we must fight! |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
Jon,
Those charts are fiction. The 250k people as I mentioned are average americans. The far left has succesfully imaged them as the super rich. When they are not. Sure, these individuals might have more lets say financial flexibility than those that earn less, but they are not wealthy under my standards. So the taxation war the far left wants to wage against them is an attack on the average american. That we must fight! |
Those charts aren't fiction - those are a visible representation of what the mean income is in this country. Sorry it dashed your perception of the wildly successful economy. |
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| Krypton |
| Wow, LL's gone into conspiracy theories land. The charts are made-up!!!:rolleyes: |
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