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What's it take to get a vinyl release these days (pg. 2)
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DjStephenWiley
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Originally posted by david.michael
I wasn't asking how to make money off vinyl. I'm just curious to know if anyone here has had any vinyls made on their own, and what their experiences were.


minimums used to be 500 and in very rare cases 250 and even more rare 100. 1000 presses seemed somewhat normal. It used to usually be done in batches in order to keep labels from losing a bunch of money (press a bunch, sell a little) - Many of you who used to buy vinyl will certainly remember new releases running out and later being re-stocked.

Vinyl is not pressed today because there is just no demand for it. As another posted noted, D&B still uses it a lot, but not much else. Digital mp3 is cheaper, easier, sounds better, makes more sense, etc. You gotta remember that not only is vinyl very expensive, needles and upkeep are expensive as well. It's simply an archaic way of playing music and unfortunately it's not popular anymore. (I miss my $300 a month vinyl bills and dropping big bucks on my ortofans)

The only clear advantage I can think of regarding vinyl is you could make money off bootleg remixes.
david.michael
Just as an FYI to anyone else reading this thread, came across http://www.rainborecords.com/vinyl.htm

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VINYL RECORD PACKAGE PRICES
All vinyl packages include: Mastering, Full Processing, 2-color Labels, and Test Pressings.

100 VINYL 12" PACKAGE - $849.00
Also Includes: White Jackets with Hole, White Inner Sleeve, Shrink-wrap. $1.80 each for additional LP's.

500 VINYL 12" PACKAGE - $1,329.00
Also includes: White Jackets with Hole, White Inner Sleeve, Shrink-wrap. Reorder: $749.00

1000 VINYL 12" PACKAGE - $1,939.00
Also includes: White Jackets with Hole, Test Pressings, White Inner Sleeve, Shrink-wrap. Reorder: $1249.00
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
Digital mp3...sounds better

No it doesn't.

I agree with the rest of your post, though. I also like the fact that the digital revolution has enabled amateurs like me to release music to the masses.

:p
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by david.michael
Just as an FYI to anyone else reading this thread, came across http://www.rainborecords.com/vinyl.htm

So, do you think it would be worth it? Are you looking to press up some of your tracks or what?
david.michael
Very intriguing, this place is about an hour from my house: http://www.musicolrecording.com/vinyl/

Similar pricing.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
So, do you think it would be worth it? Are you looking to press up some of your tracks or what?


Oh I dunno, just a little fleeting whim that I got curious about and wondered what something like that would cost. Definitely something that will be in the back of my mind. Obviously, if I did, it's something I would do for promotional purposes, not profit purposes.
MrJiveBoJingles
If I had money to burn I would probably do it for the heck of it, just to have something of mine on a record.
DjStephenWiley
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
No it doesn't.

I agree with the rest of your post, though. I also like the fact that the digital revolution has enabled amateurs like me to release music to the masses.

:p


not going to argue about opinions but i don't understand how something can sound better than its original source.
DjStephenWiley
If you have a hard on for getting a record to show off have an acetate pressed
david.michael
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
If I had money to burn I would probably do it for the heck of it, just to have something of mine on a record.


Yeah, that's also a big part of it. :cool:
david.michael
quote:
Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
If you have a hard on for getting a record to show off have an acetate pressed


I thought about that, too. The quick wear does turn me off to that, though.

CLICK_RAREVINYL
quote:
Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
not going to argue about opinions but i don't understand how something can sound better than its original source.


Well let me help you understand this then.
Vinyl is mastered with actual hardware processors before it is pressed. Most pressing plants offer mastering for free with 500 copies and that version is what people hear as the finished product. Mp3s form bedroom producers and net label owners are usually mastered with crappy software multibands. So the sound quality suffers.
DjStephenWiley
And you explain nothing. We're talking about vinyl and digital. You can't sit here and use the perfect scenario for a vinyl master and the worst for a digital master. You forgot to add you're playing the vinyl from Ortofan's and comparing it with 96kbs mp3's.

Sorry Mr. Vinyl hustler, but digital audio is better when things are equal, period.

ps. Get your rebuttal in quickly because I'm not sure how much longer you'll be around here.
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