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A State Of Trance 2008 In Store's September 29 (pg. 3)
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Quethas
Does this have more than 3 good tracks like the last year had? :D To be honest when looking at the tracklist, Martin Roth's remix is the only track which seems interesting. But let's see...
Azz3D
Isn't the proper terminology "at the beach" rather than "on the beach" ???

//grammar & spelling police
RickyM
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Originally posted by Azz3D
Isn't the proper terminology "at the beach" rather than "on the beach" ???

//grammar & spelling police



Actually, if the beach refers to the sand, then if one is lying on said sand, it is perfectly acceptable to say "on the beach".

//the department of auditing and accountabliity for the grammar and spelling police.

;)
Stino
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Originally posted by broiler
I have been a big fan of EDM since '97, I'm not a DJ or producer, and I usually just buy compilations. Since that time, I have always followed DJs by buying the albums and going to the clubs. In the past few years I have become very dismayed by the commercial aspect of the 'Superstar DJ'. I do understand that the DJ is the face of the music, but at what point is it disingenuous to praise the guy who is selecting the tracks to be played? Why is Armin on the cover, and why is he getting the praise and accolades when it is the producers who have put in the time and energy to make the music? I am not trying to slight the work of Armin et. al, but I just don't understand why people think he's god, when he just programs the music. Why is he getting very rich off of (mostly) other people's music? What I think triggered this post is the ASOT cover, which clearly markets Armin as the artist and purveyor, and I think it does so on a less than honest level. Maybe this is not appropriate for this forum, and if so, I apologize.

I think a lot of these guys literally laugh their way to the bank.


i can see your point there for sure, and what annoys me most is that the common buyer of these cd's actually thinks that armin produced all these tracks... its not something you can blame the top jocks for i guess... but what can u do about it, its just the way it is .

that said, i liked cd 1 , pretty cool tracks. Expected a lot more of cd 2 but it was disappointing. Especially the new kandi tune (although still the best track of cd 2), the new thomas bronzwear tune (which are both not on par with their previous stuff) and the simon bostock remix of "the last time", which is imho the worst remix of the package and goes totally nowhere. CD 1 is really good actually
Sykonee
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Originally posted by FCB_Fanatic
I'm reaching ... but you're too far away :(

Half a world away?
Mr Game+Watch
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Originally posted by Ted Promo
I'll be honest:

First disc was ok. There was about 30 minutes of sidechaining schulztrance that was listenable. Keeping in mind that the sidechaining was tremendous. 30 minutes of straight sidechaining. All of the vocal tracks were pants. Every last vocal track sucked except for 'Lost' on the second disc, but the second disc was wretched. It was once again epic track after epic track with two breakdowns per track. There were some nice melodies scattered about, but completely overshadowed by awful set building and tepid vocals.

Didn't make it through more than half of the second disc. 1st disc gets a 5/10 and 2nd disc gets a 2/10.

This is about the only time I check up on Armin every year (dunno why I keep doing it, mainly for lulz I guess), glad I'm not missing much still.


I hear the term "sidechaining" a lot, but I am never quite sure what exactly it is... have any examples, like in a song I might know?
Stino
the kick (most likely) is used to cut the volume of the bass or other sounds at the moment the kick is heard, so u get this ducking, up-and-down sounding sound when the 4x4 beat is going on and a wide open sound without the kick.

its commonly used nowadays because its easy to cover up the fact that you are weak at mixing kick and bass properly :stongue:
FCB_Fanatic
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Originally posted by Sykonee
Half a world away?


you know where Belgium lies??? :eyespop: :eyes:
Sykonee
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
I hear the term "sidechaining" a lot, but I am never quite sure what exactly it is... have any examples, like in a song I might know?

Here's an excellent example of sidechain abuse:
Paradox Lost
quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
I'll be honest:

First disc was ok. There was about 30 minutes of sidechaining schulztrance that was listenable. Keeping in mind that the sidechaining was tremendous. 30 minutes of straight sidechaining. All of the vocal tracks were pants. Every last vocal track sucked except for 'Lost' on the second disc, but the second disc was wretched. It was once again epic track after epic track with two breakdowns per track. There were some nice melodies scattered about, but completely overshadowed by awful set building and tepid vocals.

Didn't make it through more than half of the second disc. 1st disc gets a 5/10 and 2nd disc gets a 2/10.

This is about the only time I check up on Armin every year (dunno why I keep doing it, mainly for lulz I guess), glad I'm not missing much still.


...yeah, sounds like an ASOT release. I think the 2006 edition marked the point in which there was such a dramatic difference in quality between both discs, with the 2007 installment being a more severe example when the division was between 'listenable' and 'virtually unlistenable.'

I hope there isn't an equivalent of the essentially nine minute monstrosity that was 'Who Will Find Me,' found on last year's installment.

And yes, save for the handful of ASOT episodes I skim through on the DI repeat feature, this is the only time of the year in which I sit down to take an extended gaze as to what he's been up to, and it seems like very little of interest has been happening over the past couple of years.

If these annual mix comps are meant to reflect the cream of the crop (admittedly including some material deliberately kept under the radar), can you imagine how awful the material that didn't make the cut must be?

kikoolol
The first thing that comes to mind listening to the first CD : is it mixed ? Cause I can't hear any transitions, only trainwecks ...

So we're at the point where Armin should get some advices from Tiësto regarding mixing and beatmatching ? :stongue:
Stino
lol give me one decent example of total crap mixing on cd 1, i cant hear it, and btw its done in ableton live so i wonder what cd u have been listening
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