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Wallstreet- $700 billion proposed bailout! (pg. 5)
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Meh, the response to a draft now would be ridiculously negative, dwarfing the anger that erupted against the Vietnam draft, especially since current draft bills floating around the legislature (a) include both women and men and (b) don't make any exemption for college, so they would be hitting a lot more people this time around. |
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| elFreak |
all drafts have not been supported or popular by the us population.
they still did it.
throughout the history of man history has had a strange way of repeating itself. Why would this be any different today?
you are mistaken if you think popular opinion means anything outside of an election year.
come on you are smarter than that. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Popular opinion is precisely what ended the Vietnam War, which was actually widely approved when it first started. The draft is what really tipped the scale. |
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| elFreak |
keep thinking that your voice means more than it does.
what ended the war was the united states getting their asses handed to them, and the realization that they could not possibly win.
anything can be spun 1000 ways man, and you are being naive i think. What did popular opinion control in the way of your elected president?
popular opinion does not shape policy, and guess what it never really has. |
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| dimadelux |
lol |
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| keithos27 |
| who keeps 97K in a savings account??? |
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| dimadelux |
| quote: | Originally posted by keithos27
who keeps 97K in a savings account??? |
the one who wants to stay insured |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
keep thinking that your voice means more than it does. |
Well, one voice means basically nothing. Tens of thousands of voices are another matter.
| quote: | | what ended the war was the united states getting their asses handed to them, and the realization that they could not possibly win. |
There were still millions of young American men to send off, but eventually we stopped sending them. Why? Because the guys in charge concluded that trying to topple the DRV government wasn't worth the public relations disaster that was unfolding.
| quote: | | anything can be spun 1000 ways man, and you are being naive i think. What did popular opinion control in the way of your elected president? |
Popular opinion controls whether the President's party gets to put a successor in his place.
You're being incredibly naive if you think U.S. presidents just do whatever the hell they want without regard to how it will affect their party's chances in future elections. |
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| nefardec |
i think we're dealing with a different kind of war here
the kind of grass roots physical mobilization that got the usa in gear in wwii is very different than the type of warfare and prep which is currently going on. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
WaMu (Washington Mutual) has just gone belly up.
It's going to be bought by JP Morgan. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
Who's economy?
It is obviously bad for the average american - the only way this bail out is warrented is as a buyout. .. all this cr4p would revert to the US or creditors anyway.
The US bank insurance will take huge hit, federal reserve will be weakened, because the banks havn't been good at pimping Indian Land.
Who cares life marches on. The money has no value anyway, the rich will only get poorer if they are heavily invested into bonds and currency. Tresury will actually take a breather, but nothing will happen.. it is all play money anyway.
It is real to the people eeking out life, but it is fabricated, some grander game that has no absolutes.
Who cares.
If people really cared about one another all this copyright bs, private ownership, toll roads, tarriffs, taxes etc.. etc. .wouldn't even exist, it is just BS because control freaks like to point guns at peoples heads, and life is fabricated as limitation because anything else is disallowed because freedom would bring freedom from a reality and the cult would sunder. In life there is no peace, and 700 Billion is around 2500$ from every american, or something like that. -- how much did the war cost? but really who is really paying the bill - the people whos social security vanishes because of US debt, but you'd rather kill somene who beleives that theives should have their hands cut off than pay for someones college education. Because the world is evil. Dead weight, but real lives. Supply and demand, obviously either the state or some private body will manage their assets... part of the issue -- someone has that money though. that money did not cease to exist - someone has it.. so this bail out is really a huge transfer of inflatonary money tha will bring recession because the rich people will loose value, and they then need to hammer down the difference by repressing people.
Option A: make more money
Option B: Let someone else manage other peoples money. |
incoherence 101. stay tuned for 201 next semester. |
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| we_R_DNA |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitalbreach
Have not seen anything regarding the proposed bailout of Wallstreet on TA yet.
Was wondering what you guys felt about it?
A. I think its good for the economy
B. I don't want to bail out company's who did bad investments with my own tax money
c. What is Wallstreet?
Here's a good article i finished reading on Wired
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This is all a scam with the global propaganda machines spilling their agendas into the human psyche, manipulating humans with fear that the economy is in danger.
The haste and onslaught of the propaganda machines infects the mentality of the masses to believe it is acceptable to spend 700 billion dollars on failure b/c of the fear that everything else will fail.
Sure there is trouble in the markets, FREE MARKETS, but what is freedom if more fake money is pumped into an economy? Are we playing monopoly did we just pass GO to collect a 700 billion dollar deficit to add to our 2.2 Trillion dollar spending spree??
Why is the Executive branch asking for more money ?
I think the issues here is that the failed venture capitalistic mutli-billion dollar corporations should not be allowed access to money to help fuel an economy on credit.
Why is the Executive branch asking for money to prop up the elite multi-billion dollar corporate failures? Oh yeah it is b/c all of you tax payers are gonna get screwed if you don't invest!
Well grow up or get Fuct, b/c who ever the gets 700 billion dollars within the next couple of months will be buying up all the that is super cheap due to failures. From there the investment isn't anything more than a profiteering game. We buy, then sell it back to you at a higher price bitches!
At any rate. . .the monetary system in the US is going to be shot to due and who gets to foot the ing bill? The American Tax payers . . .
Why are there Closed door meetings with the president on these issues. . .why haven't there been president addresses to the general public before the president just flops a big hairy bill with dingle berries over Congress?
Then Bush is like hyping the up through the propaganda machine, only to then say American is in trouble. . . Fuk we are in trouble? seriously President Bush can you tackle a War + the economy with spending money the United States doesn't have?
Bush's responce, "You are with US or TEHM."
I'll tell you what as an American Tax payer the last thing I want to do is get fuct over b/c of some super huge government spending spree in a blitz or haste of saying, "Teh Economy is in trouble." From there a bill gets passed in how long? I doubt anyone has really spent enough time to craft a quality piece of work with out ing over the Tax Payers b/c the Tax Payers will be footing their Govern"MENTAL," spending spree.
Also if you read the original piece of work coming from the Executive branch you'd know how INSANE the request was.
To sum things up here is what is going on.
"The administration is in “hurry it up mode,” and warned of economic collapse if it’s not signed by Friday. They are touting the economic equivalent of the ticking time bomb scenario that’s worked so well in getting authorization for torture." ~FOXForums
USE FEAR To kill the individual thinking minds. FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER! ~ Some DNB track
Oh well I see this happening and it enrages me to no end how ignorantly manipulated humans are to agree with passing a bill in such little time with out fully understanding the dire implications of what may be enacted through congressional LAW.
P.S. Bush's original proposal was FEKKIN INSANE! |
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