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Side-chaining only parts of an instrument's frequency?
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Jake Benson
So I figured out how to do this on my own.

I want a kick to side-chain through a pad so that it doesn't sound like the pad is competing with the kick. Done. However I only want the kick to side-chain the lower-frequencies of the pad so that the upper "airy" frequencies steadily flow while the lower frequencies are suppressed whenever the kick strikes.

I think i can do this by creating two of the same pads, filtering out the high end of the pad and side chain the remaining low frequencies, and filtering out the low end of the other pad containing the frequencies I don't want to side chain. [edit] I did it. Sounds okaaaaay. But it sounds more like I'm using two different pads now, one of them being side-chained.

But is there software that already does this? I was thinking of a compressor with a "side chain on" knob or two that allows the side-chain to bypasses certain frequencies. I'm sure this has been thought of already. Anymore information on this idea would be appreciated.
strathos
You can sidechain Auto Filter's cutoff frequency in Ableton Live 7. It doesn't add compression to the sound, though, but ducking usually isn't about the dynamics anyway.
echosystm
use automation
Theran
Well actually, if I remember correctly, the 'trigger's' frequencies are used to sidechain your pad. Maybe it's an option to filter the frequencies of your trigger to see if that effects the pad.

Don't know if it works, haven't tried it yet.
Vortex_SA
you can send the sound to another channel and on that channel put an HP filter or whatever and reverse the phase, than sidechain it to whatever you want and mix the original channel with your send and presto :) i guess youll need to fiddle with it, but its much less cpu consuming then a same synth played twice... (use reverse sidechain BTW cos it will raise the original when the send is ducking...)
DeZmA
Interesting topic,

Jake, do you have reason? I tried it in reason. There it's kinda no-brainer as you're in routing paradise.

Any synth, a spider audio splitter routed to 2 BV512 vocoders set to eq, one on the first 16 bands, second on the last 16 bands. The first one's outputs go to the compressor which is sidechained, then into the mixer, the second go straight into the mixer.

Some FX and it's done.
I do get the same result having the feeling it's not the same pad playing.
alanzo
I would just make a copy of the audio track (bounce to audio if necessary), put a high pass filter on one and a low pass on the other. Then just put a sidechain on the audio track with lowpass.
cybernetica
I have set up a frequency split template for FL studio, but Im pretty much sure that can be done in any host. Just route your pad mixer channel to 2 other output channels at once, then apply a lowpass filter on one channel, and a highpass on the other.
Lunar Phase 7
In fruity you could link the peak controler to a parametric eq faders.

Is this not possible in other hosts?
Stef
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
use automation


Indeed, just draw a small automation clip and copy and paste it over and over, it will give you the exact effect you are looking for.

Cetra³
Hmmm... ing interesting question...

What you need is a sidechaining multiband compressor :| Whether that exists is a different question :happy2:
Jake Benson
quote:
Originally posted by Cetra³
Hmmm... ing interesting question...

What you need is a sidechaining multiband compressor :| Whether that exists is a different question :happy2:


lol

I'm not the brightest kid when it comes to EQ. Jake = musician + terrible producer.
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