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exstasie
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Originally posted by VERTiG0
Install DD-WRT; problem solved.


..does it make you a nerd if you actually know what that is...

damn it :(


PS. Networking sucks lol, but its something that has to be done so just try not to think about it to hard and be yourself.

Also, maybe a drink might loosen you up lol

All of my networking events are always seem to have an open bar...go figure haha...

Moral Hazard
I have to do this all the time as my business is heavily reliant on interpersonal relationships. There are a few keys: 1) maintain a broad range of knowledge such that you are able to talk about nearly any topic at anytime, if you cannot do this then at least be very failure with the current events of the day; 2) insert yourself into conversations - do not wait to be invited into a group of people because that is unlikely to happen, you need to just join in the conversation; 3) spend more time listening then talking, discern what is important to the persons with whom you're speaking and build your response from there. Responses should always validate the interests of your audience and expand on them; 4) DO NOT attach yourself to any one person or group of persons for a lengthy period of time - the goal is to meet people and establish an impression with them, remain in any one conversation long enough to do that and then move on; 5) TAKE NOTES - when you meet new people record their name and some information about them in a book (profession, employer, spouse's name, number/age/sex of children, hobbies, etc.). Before you go to the next event review your notes from the last. You will run into most of these people at future events, if you can remember a little about them and use that as the launching point for your next conversation you'll build a stronger report with them.
English Rachel
Remember.... they're just PEOPLE

I know that sounds daft but whenever I am training people in my job, it is amazing how people can be scared of people! They all started out once upon a time and 99.9% of people will only ever be nice to strangers :)

just people

just people

just people

":)
Capo di tutti
quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Have confidence
Ask Questions
Eye contact



Speak about only what you know, most people at these venues are seasoned bull detectors...

Standout BUT never out do, the mingle-ee's, never over dress and be the centre of attention by your overall presence, body language, pitch of voice, sincerity etc

you WILL draw more minglers....one your in things like a longer hand shake, a hand on their arm or shoulder(if welcomed) also helps

I am no way the best business man on this board, but I can tell you I am def overpaid and well recieved based on a few of these pillars first during an interview and over and over again with clients....

CoR version:

DONT BE A USED CARS SALESMAN
zoogla
if ur a n00b at this, the easiest advice to implement right off the bat is to be a total kiss ass. you can then refine your approach from there. always smile and always nod your head even if they're telling you to your mother :gsmile:

next step is to ask how long they've been in the "industry" and how do they find the experience. any interesting stories, like in that movie with nicole kidman? that was inspirational! nothing wrong with being shallow and mainstream in your questions because you couldn't possibly stand out without some level of anecdotal experience, like Digi said.

once you've got the ass kissing and typical generic questions mastered, you create interest in yourself with your genuine curiosity and polished brown nosing, then you ask for their business card and ask if you can contact them if any other questions come up in future. i expect this would be your biggest challenge, because you'll feel like you're asking them for a favour and it takes confidence to find the right moment to do this. it can be very awkward if your request is not delivered with context. at this point in my career, i never ask for cards, i wait for the person i'm speaking to to give me his or ask for mine. that will come with knowledge.

the above used to work like a charm for me when I started attending networking events, and now I can single out the more important people and use more effective networking techniques to get what I want.

Try it out at the next trance event at the guv!!!! LMAO.
Skipper
quote:
Originally posted by Capo di tutti
Speak about only what you know, most people at these venues are seasoned bull detectors...

Standout BUT never out do, the mingle-ee's, never over dress and be the centre of attention by your overall presence, body language, pitch of voice, sincerity etc

you WILL draw more minglers....one your in things like a longer hand shake, a hand on their arm or shoulder(if welcomed) also helps

I am no way the best business man on this board, but I can tell you I am def overpaid and well recieved based on a few of these pillars first during an interview and over and over again with clients....

CoR version:

DONT BE A USED CARS SALESMAN


Was that a response to my post? :conf:

I won't apologize for dressing nicely. Don't confuse looking sharp with overdressing because your colleagues are slobs. And I disagree with not standing out...nobody notices someone who's quiet. I've learned this the hard way.
Capo di tutti
quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Was that a response to my post? :conf:

I won't apologize for dressing nicely. Don't confuse looking sharp with overdressing because your colleagues are slobs. And I disagree with not standing out...nobody notices someone who's quiet. I've learned this the hard way.


Dress Sharp, don't over do it, and stand out but don't be crying for attention, draw people the right way...Just my exp. with dealing with brokers, who all think they are better than the next guy, esp a young guy like me...and have an attention span of about 30 secs literally.


Got to be a lion and a fox
DigiNut
quote:
Originally posted by Owen M
I recently gained a position with a new company because I straight up told them I'm looking for a new position and was interested in working with them.

What I meant was, don't make it an issue that you're looking for work in general, i.e. still in school or unemployed. Obviously you don't lie if you're asked directly, but it's entirely different when you're already gainfully employed and you happen to say, hey, your company sounds pretty kick-ass, and I wouldn't mind a change of scenery, so if you don't mind puttin' in the good word for me then maybe I could help you out with my mad 31337 h4x0ri/\/@ skills or whatever.

Maybe that sounds like an insubstantial difference to some, but it's all perception of being in demand. At least in my industry (information systems) it's actually a reality that most of the good ones are taken, and the ones who are on the market seem to always be on the market. Don't let anyone walk away with that impression of you.


quote:
Originally posted by Capo di tutti
Dress Sharp, don't over do it

Ahahaha I totally overdo it, I love to stand out. Not with expensive Armani suits or any of that dumb , but almost always something cool/unusual. Of course, that goes hand-in-hand with the extreme arrogance and sarcasm.

Note - don't do this. I'm just saying I do it, and it took me the better part of 10 years to turn it into an asset instead of a liability, and it's still sometimes sort of a liability, but it makes things more interesting. If you don't have a firm believe that other people exist for your personal amusement then you're better off with the "professional" appearance and demeanor. I'm just saying, conformity isn't always the only way.
Zentac_75
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
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If you don't have a firm belief that other people exist for your personal amusement...


:haha: :haha: :haha:

Your honesty has me wiping the remainder of my beverage off of my moniter.
nadezhda
i need to learn how to do this...i have gotten better over the years as i've become a bit more outgoing, but i still find in these situations i revert back to uber shyness. ugh, it's just so uncomfortable and awkward, but necessary.

Owen M
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
What I meant was, don't make it an issue that you're looking for work in general, i.e. still in school or unemployed. Obviously you don't lie if you're asked directly, but it's entirely different when you're already gainfully employed and you happen to say, hey, your company sounds pretty kick-ass, and I wouldn't mind a change of scenery, so if you don't mind puttin' in the good word for me then maybe I could help you out with my mad 31337 h4x0ri/\/@ skills or whatever.

Maybe that sounds like an insubstantial difference to some, but it's all perception of being in demand. At least in my industry (information systems) it's actually a reality that most of the good ones are taken, and the ones who are on the market seem to always be on the market. Don't let anyone walk away with that impression of you.





That makes more sense.
VERTiG0
The absolute biggest motivator to get your ass in gear and do it is some quote I read years and years ago: If you risk nothing, you gain nothing.

It's worked quite well for me.
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