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Second Presidential Debate
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| DJ Shibby |
I know. YAWN. Not even worth a topic til 6 hours after the fact.
But yeah, what did everyone personally think? |
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| Q5echo |
the format was a joke. it was neither a town hall or a debate.
they both did fine. i'm not one for minutea.
i think McCain could win this on Obama's complicity with Fannie and Freddie he just needs to be able to have the oppurtunity. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
i think McCain could win this on Obama's complicity with Fannie and Freddie he just needs to be able to have the oppurtunity. |
the sky is still blue on my world, I believe. What is it on yours?
Im pretty sure Obama explained clearly his relationship with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the debate after McCain started accusing him and calling him "that one!".
McCain is such a duttering and snappy old man. I can't wait to see his concession speech in four weeks! |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Im pretty sure Obama explained clearly his relationship with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the debate after McCain started accusing him and calling him "that one!". |
You mean how so many ex-Fannie execs are on his economic advisory team? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
You mean how so many ex-Fannie execs are on his economic advisory team? |
Call a spade a spade.
| quote: | MCCAIN'S FREDDIE MAC LOBBYIST.... Honestly, I have no idea what the McCain campaign was thinking.
The lobbying firm of the man Republicans say John McCain has chosen to begin planning a presidential transition earned more than a quarter of a million dollars this year representing Freddie Mac, one of the companies McCain blames for the nation's financial crisis.
Timmons & Co., whose founder and chairman emeritus is William Timmons Sr., was registered to lobby for Freddie Mac from 2000 through this month, when the federal government took over both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
Newly available congressional records show Timmons's firm received $260,000 this year before its lobbying activities were barred under terms of the government rescue of the failed mortgage giant. Timmons, 77, is listed as a lobbyist for Freddie Mac on the company's midyear financial-disclosure form.
John McCain personally spent most of last week railing against Barack Obama's associations with former Fannie Mae officials were extremely important, worthy of attack ads and overheated speeches. At one point, about a week ago, McCain told CBS, "[T]he influence that Fannie and Freddie had in the inside-the-beltway, old-boy network, which led to this kind of corruption is unacceptable." Soon after, he told a Wisconsin audience, "At the center of the problem were the lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats who succeeded in persuading Congress and the administration to ignore the festering problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."
This, after McCain had tapped Freddie Mac's lobbyist to head his presidential transition team? And after he tapped a former Fannie Mae lobbyist as his campaign manager? Seriously?
By this standard, McCain probably should feel compelled to vote against himself.
Or, as Josh Marshall concluded, "I expect a lot of hypocrisy of all politicians, of both parties. But John McCain is really in a class of his own." |
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ar...8_09/014845.php
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?...&refer=politics |
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| LazFX |
I am just saying but I'm sure the dirty south will back him, but...damn, he was Black dismissive all night, walking away from black questioners, forgetting to address black questioners. He smiled at the white folks. Senator McCain is a true divider and a proud GOP member.
loved how McCain told the black kid, "You prob never heard of Fannie May And Freddie Mac."
Why you ing ass hole?? cause he is black??
ing he lost it man, just ing lost it
and just for Q
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| Zild |
| Next time it would be nice if they had an actual debate. Same for the VP candidates. |
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| josh4 |
Blah blah blah. The same old rehashed again.
If McCain needed a knockout he sure didn't look like he was trying for one. What's that old man got up his sleeve? |
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| CHRles |
Another great night for Obama.
Even some folks at Fox News are starting to admit that Obama is the better candidate so you know Mccain is in trouble... |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
Another great night for Obama.
Even some folks at Fox News are starting to admit that Obama is the better candidate so you know Mccain is in trouble... |
Yeah, it's been interesting to see conservative pundits already declare the election over as well. David Brooks seems content at being resigned to an Obama presidency.
Bill Kristol of course is still willing to fight til the end... but then he's nothing but a neo-conservative hack, complicit in his own way for the rise of the PNAC tom-foolery of the past eight years. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Yeah, it's been interesting to see conservative pundits already declare the election over as well. David Brooks seems content at being resigned to an Obama presidency.
Bill Kristol of course is still willing to fight til the end... but then he's nothing but a neo-conservative hack, complicit in his own way for the rise of the PNAC tom-foolery of the past eight years. |
yeah thats all good but when Q5echo declares then it will be over ;)
oh yeah
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