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Mixing Compressed drums with uncompressed
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| G-Con |
I've read here and there that a good tip to get really punchy tight drums is this:
Create two drums sub-groups that receive all the drum parts. On one, leave uncompressed or compress very lightly.
On the other, compress very heavily, maybe allowing transients through for punch or instead to bring the tails through (personal taste I suppose)
Then mix the two sub-groups together. I've read this is a great way to give your drums fullness and punch.
I'm very interested in this method and would like to hear your views, experiences, pros, cons, etc
Thanks
Greg |
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| Freak |
yep works very well. tried and tested.
Can go a stage further and split the group- stick a high pass one one and a low pass on the other (and a mid pass if you like on a third too) and compress each band heavily seperately. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Can go a stage further and split the group- stick a high pass one one and a low pass on the other (and a mid pass if you like on a third too) and compress each band heavily seperately. |
lol
or you could just use a multiband compressor... i mean, that's what they're made for afterall. :stongue: |
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| dannib |
I use parallel compression all of the time.
I send all of my single drums to a buss (individually compressing the drums before) I then send this group to another group via a pre-fade send. On the second group i heavily compress the drums with up to 10db of gain reduction. I then bring out the bass and high end frequencies with an eq leaving the mid frequencies. I will then mix this buss with the original drums depending on how much punch i want. |
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| echosystm |
| so, when you say you mix it with the original bus... do you mean like highpassing one and lowpassing the other? if you let them overlap, won't you get a lot of muddiness? also, how is this different from a compressor/multiband with wet/dry? |
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| Hydroid |
this "trick" can b used the same with distortion or saturation.
can really make ur drums full and punchy tho i don't like to compress the whole group just certain parts or if ur mixing rock for example i would compress the out of the overheads.
it also goes well with guitars ;) |
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| dannib |
| i dont high pass or low pass. I just mix the compressed buss ALOT lower in the mix. Why would this cause muddiness? Have a read on paralell or NY compression. Mixing engineers use this all of the time. Multiband compression is totally different and you can't get a multiband version of for example a distressor or an API 2500 :) |
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| palm |
| didnt we just have a thread about chicago style compression or whatever it is called? |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=487650
I thought there was another thread on this that was bigger than that one, but I can't seem to find it. This is also known as "New York Compression". Something I think I'm gonna start playing with. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by dannib
Multiband compression is totally different |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
how is this different from a compressor/multiband with wet/dry? |
from what i can see, this is absolutely no different from a compressor or multiband compressor with wet/dry controls. Eg. Reacomp let's you bring the dry signal back in with the wet.
and it is not totally different from multiband compression with wet/dry controls - this would emulate EQing the two channels together, rather than just adjusting the levels... |
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