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General Zagorec and Balcan mafia (pg. 2)
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| So, two days ago a prominent news media house owner, Ivo Pukanic, was blown up in his car together with his chief of marketing. He was supposedly a friend of Petrac and was about to appear on the trial of General Zagorec today. He also had friendly ties with president Mesic, and was supposedly on good terms with many important people from the criminal milieu. Back in the days when General Gotovina was hiding, he managed to get an interview with him. So far it seems that the bomb was set up with military grade explosive, most likely the kind they manufacture in Serbia. The blast was huge, I heard it real loud in my house 4 tram stops away. |
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| Moongoose |
| So seriously, how safe do you feel right now? I would be worried by now that things would escalate and that innocent bystanders could be getting hurt, especially if i heard the bomb go off :nervous: |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
So seriously, how safe do you feel right now? I would be worried by now that things would escalate and that innocent bystanders could be getting hurt, especially if i heard the bomb go off :nervous: |
Personally I don't feel that unsafe, after all this is a big city so it's really gonna be a small chance of me getting hurt. However the situation in the state is almost critical, never before has the mob targeted so important people. This has escalated into an open war between the mob and the government, and we're at a breaking point here - it's either gonna be the fall of the government or the whole set of kingpins in jail. No more status quo either way. |
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| Moongoose |
Well it seems that the Croatian police released the sketch of the suspected bomber, its just that, well...
:wtf: |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Personally I don't feel that unsafe, after all this is a big city so it's really gonna be a small chance of me getting hurt. However the situation in the state is almost critical, never before has the mob targeted so important people. This has escalated into an open war between the mob and the government, and we're at a breaking point here - it's either gonna be the fall of the government or the whole set of kingpins in jail. No more status quo either way. |
Well now I understand why you're racist and homophobic... you're from another world than me.
I mean this with complete sincerity when I say that I wish you the best and hope things get better over there where you are.
I know America is villified, but if you ever need to leave, consider California or New England. We're good people, we just go about things in a roundabout fashion.
And we can teach you a thing or two about humanity, just the same. |
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| guerra-monstru |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Personally I don't feel that unsafe, after all this is a big city so it's really gonna be a small chance of me getting hurt. However the situation in the state is almost critical, never before has the mob targeted so important people. This has escalated into an open war between the mob and the government, and we're at a breaking point here - it's either gonna be the fall of the government or the whole set of kingpins in jail. No more status quo either way. | Tito,
This is seriously happening all right now in your country? |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by guerra-monstru
Tito,
This is seriously happening all right now in your country? |
Yes! And I thought Matamoros was bad. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Well now I understand why you're racist and homophobic... you're from another world than me. |
Ugh..I'm neither racist nor homophobic. But to some people if you're not a member of black panthers or gay prides, you're immediately being labeled as such..
| quote: | I mean this with complete sincerity when I say that I wish you the best and hope things get better over there where you are.
I know America is villified, but if you ever need to leave, consider California or New England. We're good people, we just go about things in a roundabout fashion.
And we can teach you a thing or two about humanity, just the same. |
I've been living in the US for couple of years, and I didn't really find it to be a heaven on Earth either. Though the fact that I've been stationed in North Dakota might have a lot to do with it :) |
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| HardTranceProd |
While we're on the subject, I wanted to thrown in this NYT article about the increasingly dangerous mafia situation in... Bulgaria. Pretty close, no?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/w...16bulgaria.html
Mob Muscles Its Way Into Politics in Bulgaria
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SOFIA, Bulgaria — Politics is played to the death in Bulgaria, where the lives of politicians can be as cheap as spent bullets and murky business groups wage a murderous struggle for their cut of everything from real estate deals to millions in European aid.
During a furious political season last year, the home of the chairwoman of a municipal electoral committee was set on fire, and the garages of mayors were firebombed. The mayor of a resort town in central Bulgaria was shot and killed with seven bullets, as was the wealthy City Council chairman in the outwardly idyllic Black Sea port of Nesebur.
“Other countries have the mafia,” said Atanas Atanasov, a member of Parliament and a former counterintelligence chief who is a magnet for leaked documents exposing corruption. “In Bulgaria, the mafia has the country.”
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These peeps are called "thick necks" (tolsto-sheie). They control everything from politics to nightclubs! I wouldn't advise crossing paths with them. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
While we're on the subject, I wanted to thrown in this NYT article about the increasingly dangerous mafia situation in... Bulgaria. Pretty close, no?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/w...16bulgaria.html
Mob Muscles Its Way Into Politics in Bulgaria

These peeps are called "thick necks" (tolsto-sheie). They control everything from politics to nightclubs! I wouldn't advise crossing paths with them. |
Bulgaria is the worst in Europe by far. Every self-respecting mobster in this area has a Bulgarian passport. Most of the organized crime ordeals here can be connected to Bulgaria. I think it was a big mistake of the EU to let them in. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Interesting read Drug_Tito... thanks :). |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
So it seems Ivo Pukanic has been a witness in the trial of General Zagorec, and he managed to provide some evidence against him. He showed empty boxes that the diamonds were stored in, but the boxes did still contain the certificates about the value of the diamonds. He did not reveal his source, as the source was afraid for his life and wanted to stay anonymous.
On the other hand, it was discovered that earlier this year, when Petrac accused Zagorec of stealing the diamonds, Zagorec immediately closed and emptied 3 safes in a German bank. The whereabouts and the nature of the contents are unknown so far, but I suppose we can guess as to what they were. |
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