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The Choice (pg. 4)
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| Halcyon+On+On |
c0r version: Vote Obama because he's more organized than McCain. Oh yeah, and the world is going to end if Obama is not elected, etc.
Seriously, it's just an opinionated article that lists facts to support itself. That's all. |
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| Fpcookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by BTG
isn't the election on nov 4th?
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i just googled nov. 7 2008.
now i get it.
gears of war 2. fair enough. |
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| BTG |
| so is anybody going to tell me what happens on nov 7th, or is this really a gears of war 2 hype thread? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by BTG
so is anybody going to tell me what happens on nov 7th, or is this really a gears of war 2 hype thread? |
Nothing happens on Nov. 7th. |
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| Fledz |
While I do hope Obama wins, I hope he doesn't win by a massive margin.
When the leading party holds the majority of the senate and makes decisions however they want, then you start to have issues.
We had that with the Coalition in Australia for Howard's last term. They just got too powerful and actually started making things worse. A balance of power is always better for the nation. |
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| Project-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Seriously, though. American political ignorance is mostly an effect of the mindless media of TV (and radio to a lesser extent) dominating the conversation in ways they never have for most other countries. TV and its attendant shallowness and low attention span are not just harmless supplements to literacy and rationality: they are antithetical to them. The near absence of thoughtful political content on TV is not a conspiracy, but a direct result of the nature of the medium and its shaping of popular consciousness. |
There's that, and it certainly doesn't help that elections are being covered 24/7 365 days a week. , how long have they been talking about november 08? People get sick of it, and they stop paying attention.
It doesn't help that american politics are boring as hell. It's always so incredibly static - same two major parties with the exact same ambiguous platforms tending to approximately 50% of the american population each, thus being so incredibly broad that it pleases absolutely no one. They'll occasionally shift ever so slightly to adapt to trends, but come election day, about half of americans will vote republican, and about half will vote democrat. Yawn.
You guys really need to get rid of the 2 party system. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Nothing happens on Nov. 7th. |
Incorrect. Frenchie's raging hangover is Nov. 7th. |
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| BTG |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Nothing happens on Nov. 7th. |
so the morons accusing me of not knowing what's going on in the states just don't know when their own election is? :stongue: |
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| Frenchie |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
Incorrect. Frenchie's raging hangover is Nov. 7th. |
That is also incorrect. Frenchie is working + the hangover would be the 8th, not the 7th. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
That is also incorrect. Frenchie is working |
uggggggh
Make sure to make up what partying you have missed. :p |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Project-K
It doesn't help that american politics are boring as hell. It's always so incredibly static - same two major parties with the exact same ambiguous platforms tending to approximately 50% of the american population each, thus being so incredibly broad that it pleases absolutely no one. They'll occasionally shift ever so slightly to adapt to trends, but come election day, about half of americans will vote republican, and about half will vote democrat. Yawn.
You guys really need to get rid of the 2 party system. |
This simplistic system appeals to people who would rather not exert themselves much in thinking about political or economic policies. It gives them a clean choice between "liberalism" and "conservatism" without requiring them to think very precisely about the kinds of governance those terms imply. There is as much raw intelligence in America as anywhere else, but any kind of extensive use of one's brain is very much a minority interest. But what else can you expect of people who grew up with an average of four or five hours of stupid television per day? The schools here are neither as amusing as TV nor as engaging as the vapid conversationalism of MySpace, YouTube, and Facebook, which comprises most of young people's Internet use; so how can things like "education" or "political awareness" hope to compete? Habits traditionally expected of an educated person -- tolerance for complexity and ambiguity, the simple ability to concentrate on a subject for more than a few minutes, the attempt to distance oneself from prejudice and strong emotion in evaluating matters of fact -- evaporate and start to look boring and old-fashioned to those who get their sense of the world mostly through such entertainments. |
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| woscar99 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
While I do hope Obama wins, I hope he doesn't win by a massive margin.
When the leading party holds the majority of the senate and makes decisions however they want, then you start to have issues.
We had that with the Coalition in Australia for Howard's last term. They just got too powerful and actually started making things worse. A balance of power is always better for the nation. |
That's not necessarily true. Take my country for example. Whenever we are lucky enough to actually have a president who wants to do things right, congress ends up blocking every attempt at doing so. |
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