Originally posted by Funkesthesiac69
thank you for showing us this evidence that apparently this thread is entirely devoid of it;)
nice try, but im still waiting.
what exactly has bush done with this law in the last 2 years? anything to warrant all you little boys running around with scared looks on your faces? surely he's done something? no? gee, we'd better start a new thread about it then!
{b.s.e.}
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
nice try, but im still waiting.
what exactly has bush done with this law in the last 2 years? anything to warrant all you little boys running around with scared looks on your faces? surely he's done something? no? gee, we'd better start a new thread about it then!
You know, I'd be amazed if you made it through your daily life speaking to people in the manner in which you do. The ladies must luuurve you.
Why don't you set an example to all these 'little boys' and act like a man and treat people [especially ones that are not speaking to you!] with respect, not some punk teenager with a chip on his shoulder.
If you can't accept the fact that Bush has taken some pretty big steps in removing the average liberty from the average American, you shouldn't even speak up in these threads. But considering you don't understand something as basic as the Law of Conservation of Motion I wouldn't expect much out of you, at any rate. :clown:
{b.s.e.}
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
nice try, but im still waiting.
what exactly has bush done with this law in the last 2 years?
You obviously don't read, or refuse to acknowledge the many, many people who have had Habeus Corpus stripped of them, kept without trial for months [years] on end, or the waterboarding, or electroshockwhathaveyou. You don't remember the gun seizures after Katrina either, or the fact that Bush wrote a bill pardoning himself from any potential war crimes during his administration's policy.
He's a ing nazi, second generation. They learned their lesson the first time around.
culorut
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He's a ing nazi, second generation. They learned their lesson the first time around.
+1
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
You obviously don't read, or refuse to acknowledge the many, many people who have had Habeus Corpus stripped of them, kept without trial for months [years] on end, or the waterboarding, or electroshockwhathaveyou. You don't remember the gun seizures after Katrina either, or the fact that Bush wrote a bill pardoning himself from any potential war crimes during his administration's policy.
you know, for once you and i are in total agreement.
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
You know, I'd be amazed if you made it through your daily life speaking to people in the manner in which you do. The ladies must luuurve you.
well i guess its lucky for me that i dont know any female conspiracy theorists ;)
i would just like to point out that laws can be changed, that as problematic as you might find obama he is at least different to bush, and that since bush has not instituted martial law in the previous 8 years, i don't expect him to do so in the following few months.
i dont believe the level of animosity and fear-mongering in this thread adequately represents the reality of the situation, that's all.
DJ Shibby
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
that's conspiracy theorist speak for "i have absolutely no evidence to support my position, but let's spread the dumb around anyway".
I think its pretty obvious that there are many things going on all the time that we don't know about... nothing "conspiracy theorist" about it.
edit: unless you were being specific to the OP's martial law allegations; I don't think martial law can exist on mass scale in America, but I do believe the government has established martial many times in isolated areas to suppress various "issues".
People were massacred by the army in the past over alcohol prohibition, in a major city. -.-
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I think its pretty obvious that there are many things going on all the time that we don't know about... nothing "conspiracy theorist" about it.
of course. i didnt mean to suggest nothing goes on behind the scenes. just that the use of 'perhaps' in the original context makes me doubt whether the author has the evidence with which to accurately support his previous claim(s).
DJ Shibby
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
of course. i didnt mean to suggest nothing goes on behind the scenes. just that the use of 'perhaps' in the original context makes me doubt whether the author has the evidence with which to accurately support his previous claim(s).
Yeah I figured that's what you meant, I updated the reply appropriately, but a bit late. :toothless
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
edit: unless you were being specific to the OP's martial law allegations; I don't think martial law can exist on mass scale in America, but I do believe the government has established martial many times in isolated areas to suppress various "issues".
People were massacred by the army in the past over alcohol prohibition, in a major city. -.-
well, i don't know that i equate the use of force by the military and/or police as 'martial law' even if wiki might
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Martial law is the system of rules that takes effect when the military takes control of the normal administration of justice.
Martial law is sometimes imposed during wars or occupations in the absence of any other civil government. Examples of this form of military rule include Germany and Japan after World War II or the American South during the early stages of Reconstruction. In addition it is used by governments to enforce their rule, for example after a coup d'état (Thailand 2006), when threatened by popular protests (Tiananmen Square protests of 1989), or to crack down on the opposition (Poland 1981). Martial law can also be declared in cases of major natural disasters; however most countries use a different legal construct, such as a "state of emergency".
In many countries martial law imposes particular rules, one of which is curfew. Often, under this system, the administration of justice is left to a military tribunal, called a court-martial. The suspension of the writ of habeas corpus is likely to occur.
the highlighted portion is what i see as setting 'martial law' apart from any other form of oppression by the state. riot police firing teargas at protesters /= martial law to me.
edit: asides from gitmo i am unaware of any people in the US that have had habeus corpus suspended, but i am happy to be shown otherwise.
