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The Globe and Mail: A master plan to rein in 'Clubland' (pg. 3)
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| mute79 |
| ent. district is such a fkin zoo.. it needs to be cleaned up |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by kaniz
However, isn't he representing the people who live in that area? and most of the people that are affected by his plans don't actually live there - just come to it on the weekends. |
Yes, and those people spend money in the area in return for the clubbing services that they receive. As an organizer or manager, you have to realise where your revenue comes from in order to make sure it does not disappear.
If a big city only catered to the people that directly lived there, then there would be no point for anybody else to enter it. You think the skydome, or various theaters or cultural events are only populated by people that actually live within the city limits? |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Just burn all of clubland to the ground and get the condos built....I am sick of all that crap noise anyhow and I am looking for a new condo so this would be perfect. |
how about a unit in this building? and it's right in front of the scotiabank theatre.
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| DannyPINK |
I studied urban planning and I'm all for beautifying the area and regulating the zoning to allow for a more mixed-use Clubland.
I agree with those who want to see the city allow more clubs to be created outside of the boundaries of Clubland. There are definitely more commercial/industrial parts of the city where clubs can thrive outside of resdential areas.
Last call being at 2AM and the law that requires some bars to shut down by 3AM is what's causing a lot of the disdain among non-clubbing Clubland residents. I hope we can all agree that the out-of-town drinking crowds are the ones who cause the most problems in the neighborhood. A couple of high sketchbags are less harmful than the drunk ass holes and their stupid friends trying to build up their egos and prove who's dick is bigger.
Thank god FW, Guv and CZ are outside of Clubland. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by kaniz
However, isn't he representing the people who live in that area? and most of the people that are affected by his plans don't actually live there - just come to it on the weekends. |
it's an ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT with the majority of residential units NOT being there before the clubs/bars. This area was a commercial/industrial wasteland before it became what it is now.
I'm all for mixed-use zoning (in fact, I prefer it over exclusive zoning) but the people who CHOOSE to live there need to realize that it's going to be significantly different than living in a quiet 100% residential neighbourhood in a subdivision. Again, I'm not arguing that residents entirely forfeit their rights to safety, reasonable noise levels, etc....but there is a middle ground and some common sense ought to prevail here.
another gem from Vaughan in the papers today after the bust this week:
| quote: | | "But there's a light at the end of the tunnel. And it's not a strobe light coming from the next club, but a better tomorrow." |
you can argue that one or two quotes might be taken out of context, but he says stuff like this ALL THE TIME. His contempt for the district is clear and if it was up to him, he would revamp the entire district, I'm sure. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I'm all for mixed-use zoning (in fact, I prefer it over exclusive zoning) but the people who CHOOSE to live there need to realize that it's going to be significantly different than living in a quiet 100% residential neighbourhood in a subdivision. Again, I'm not arguing that residents entirely forfeit their rights to safety, reasonable noise levels, etc....but there is a middle ground and some common sense ought to prevail here. |
lol. you're asking for too much ;)
common sense? compromise? lol. people are inherently selfish, esp. people claiming their rights and not give a damn about others |
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| Vogon |
I enjoyed the Star article I was reading on Friday where the chief of Police for Vaughan was discussing the higher murder rate this year.
He attributed some of the incidents to people engaging in a Riskier lifestyle. The quote I enjoyed to most was, "If you go to work, come home and watch the hockey game, you are living a safe lifestyle and generally would not experience violent crime, but if you choose to spend time in one of the 1000 licensed venues in Mississauga, you are living a riskier lifestyle and would increase your chance of an incident"
I thought this seemed inline with the what I am reading here. |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vogon
I enjoyed the Star article I was reading on Friday where the chief of Police for Vaughan was discussing the higher murder rate this year.
He attributed some of the incidents to people engaging in a Riskier lifestyle. The quote I enjoyed to most was, "If you go to work, come home and watch the hockey game, you are living a safe lifestyle and generally would not experience violent crime, but if you choose to spend time in one of the 1000 licensed venues in Mississauga, you are living a riskier lifestyle and would increase your chance of an incident"
I thought this seemed inline with the what I am reading here. |
Wow, this infuriates me to read. So because he enjoys sitting at home in front of a screen after a long day of work, every body else should too?
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This guy needs to get a grip on reality. Politicians are not around to tell me how to live my life. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
Wow, this infuriates me to read. So because he enjoys sitting at home in front of a screen after a long day of work, every body else should too?
:whip:
This guy needs to get a grip on reality. Politicians are not around to tell me how to live my life. |
lol it's funny since we live in the "nanniest" province in probably the most "nanniest" city..
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
lol it's funny since we live in the "nanniest" province in probably the most "nanniest" city..
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With what seems like a pretty liberal take on life, how they hell did this happen? We accept all cultures, from all walks of life, with all orientations, but for some reason the city is playing nanny. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
With what seems like a pretty liberal take on life, how they hell did this happen? We accept all cultures, from all walks of life, with all orientations, but for some reason the city is playing nanny. |
lol good question .. I'm waiting for jayx1 to chime in on this one
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| Sentinal |
| Captain Douchebag |
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