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Moving out of the bedroom
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| Leniu |
Hope I don't get crucified for starting a topic, but I honestly can't find an existing thread about this, namely, how did you guys move from just DJing in your bedroom to DJing at clubs?
I've become interested in music beyond just listening to it around three years ago. It began with very lame productions, but with time I got decent at it, but never made anything to impress anyone other than my friends. In the process I learned a bit about the music and I realized people I'm surrounded by love my music. From my girlfriend and friends, to even my parents and their friends, people always ask me for CDs of "your music", so I began making mixes with Virtual DJ.
In the process I got my friend who shares similar passion for the music into DJing also.
So in August, when we felt we learned almost everything we could on VDJ, we got some extra work, saved up money and bought a used DJ set up, namely 2 CDJ200's, a DJM600, along with 2 Samson xp200 speakers. We've been obsessed with DJing for the past 4 months, and we would love to get a gig somewhere, anywhere, even free of charge... so my question is, how do we go about this? |
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| Domesticated |
Go out to clubs and talk to people: promoters, owners, bar staff and other DJs.
Make a demo CD and hand it out to people. |
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| Yohan |
And support promoters's nights and fellow DJs
Make connections. |
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| s3nate |
| Get to know people, not just promoters but party go'ers too. Send out your mixes to lots of people and if you become good enough friends with djs that play out invite them over to mix. This is my first year playing out and I have been spinning in the bedroom for three so have patience. |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by s3nate
Get to know people, not just promoters but party go'ers too. Send out your mixes to lots of people and if you become good enough friends with djs that play out invite them over to mix. This is my first year playing out and I have been spinning in the bedroom for three so have patience. |
You should post gig logs more often. Done any since that hardstyle crowd one?
Personally I'm quite happy at the moment (even though I'm a total attention whore), and I certainly get a lot of satisfaction from those few weekly net radio things I used to do, which I will probably end up doing again in the future. Hopefully eventually I'll get good enough to move onto D.I... and idk... psy wise... I think I'll try and get into the scene with productions since that is something I most definitely very much want to do. Or idk... maybe those super secret aussie ta psy raves will still be going on when I'm old enough to actually goto one, and they'll let me play a set there :P
I'd be happy playing a good house/electro/even hardstyle set for my friends at a party or whatever... but total randoms... I'm not so sure.
As mentioned, I think I'm quite content with the net radio/forums crowd... and I'm not really prepared to play more acessable stuff/otherwise make sacrifices to get an actual one.
Thats slightly offtopic though, and more information on this subject would be great. |
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| s3nate |
| quote: | Originally posted by Darkarbiter
You should post gig logs more often. Done any since that hardstyle crowd one?
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Yes I have played 2 since then. One got busted (it was illegal) right after my set which was complete win :)
The other one after that was a legal one and me and my buddy got the first slot. We did surprisingly well and there was quite a few people on the dance floor. This actually got us a slot at an even bigger upcoming event here.
I recorded the whole night of the legal rave so click here to download it. |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
And support promoters's nights and fellow DJs
Make connections. |
this is where you start to spend a lot of money, this time on tickets and booze
you have to be out at the nights you want to play at all the time, get to know every single dj and promoter and when you run into them at a party, make sure to stop and say hi, make sure to bring friends
after a little while of making said connections, record a killer demo and get it in the hands of everyone, djs, promoters, clubbers, everyone
if they get people coming up to them and asking if they've heard your cd and that they want to hear you play, they'll have to book you
it's not just about playing out, you have to create a following that will be more than happy to come out to hear you play
a dj that doesn't get people through the door is useless, no matter the skill level |
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| Leniu |
Thanks for the responses, but now I got another problem.
I live in Brooklyn, New York. There's plenty of clubs here, but unfortunately... not a single place to listen to any good Trance, Techno, or even Electro or House. Basically every club I've ever been to plays garbage.
Last week I went out to one of the nicer clubs in Brooklyn and expected to find a little bit of a different vibe, but it was the same thing, namely:
There were two DJs in their 30s switching on and off, they literally didn't really know how to beatmatch properly... song were often played too loud or too quietly and I was able to hear them adjust the volume as they were playing... Their musical selection wasn't much better, they started off with some really bad hosue I can't identify, then moved on to House remixes of old Russian songs (I dont know why Russian, it's not a Russian neighborhood or anything...) then they had a David Guetta marathon, and I you not they played 20 David Guetta songs in a row, including about 5 remixes of "Love is Gone." Then they moved on to Reggeton and then to Rap.
Personally I mainly play Trance with a twist of House and Electro, and I know there's a big crowd of kids in their lower 20's that love my music, but I feel like no promoters or DJs in the local clubs would apprieciate Trance, so I don't know how I can make a connection with them... Anyone had a similar dilemma? |
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| Dj Gracjan |
| Have to strongly agree with Tony Morello |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
this is where you start to spend a lot of money, this time on tickets and booze
you have to be out at the nights you want to play at all the time, get to know every single dj and promoter and when you run into them at a party, make sure to stop and say hi, make sure to bring friends
after a little while of making said connections, record a killer demo and get it in the hands of everyone, djs, promoters, clubbers, everyone
if they get people coming up to them and asking if they've heard your cd and that they want to hear you play, they'll have to book you
it's not just about playing out, you have to create a following that will be more than happy to come out to hear you play
a dj that doesn't get people through the door is useless, no matter the skill level |
Very true, but very sad. It climaxed (at least in London) to talentless pricks getting headlining sets because they could bring x amount of people in to the club. This means that DJ's with real talent but not a huge following of people (that go with to any night they're booked for) will miss out.
I remember a while ago, I fixed a bit of kit for a well known promoter. He wanted to pay me for it but I said just please listen to my demo instead. He said he didn't need to - as long as I played the right genre (which he already knew I did from conversations), he was willing to give me a slot if I could bring a load people to the club. This was a for a musically well respected club, which had a good name and regularly booked big dj's.
My advice for you, Leniu: Do your own small club night! You've got to be able to find a way to get 50 people out, and book it in a small venue and beg borrow or steal the kit, blag you're massive older brother (and his mates) to be the bouncers, get a keg or a load of beer bottles cheap and sell them cheap (more fun = more success).
I know in NY this might be a problem due to the police state like rules on clubs but seriously, you could end up finding a load of like minded people, just desperate to hear the same music. |
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| Leniu |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
My advice for you, Leniu: Do your own small club night! You've got to be able to find a way to get 50 people out, and book it in a small venue and beg borrow or steal the kit, blag you're massive older brother (and his mates) to be the bouncers, get a keg or a load of beer bottles cheap and sell them cheap (more fun = more success).
I know in NY this might be a problem due to the police state like rules on clubs but seriously, you could end up finding a load of like minded people, just desperate to hear the same music. |
The problem is it costs about $1000-$2000 to throw a small club night here in Brooklyn. Yes, maybe we could get the money back by charging at the door and overcharging for the drinks, but otherwise it would be grim.
Also, it's true, I could probably get about 50 of my friends to come support me, but what good does that do?
I feel stuck, like the only way to get to spin anywhere here is to play the same garbage they play and then slowly try to convert people... Is that really what I have to resort to? |
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| Tony Morello |
i wound up starting up my own night that ran very successfully (we were touted as the top electronic bar hour night) until some went down with the owner (long story, not my fault though)
if there isn't anything available for you to play at, start it up yourself
it's going to take a lot of hard work and a lot of pounding the pavement but it's possible, if you build it they will come |
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