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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Congratulations!
Out of curiosity, do you still get royalties for like the tracks you had on Magik compilations and stuff like that ? |
thanks
yes I do, and it helps. But I still haven't got anything from my latest cd, thanks to zyx music. They'll get bankrupt in a few, don't sell cd's well and don't send correct statements. Which means I get money quite late, it takes up to 2 years for some releases |
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| crazedonee |
get a job that lets you work from home
work nights and spend all day producing
or work part time like 2 days a week then produce all week i used to do this now i have a 9-5 so i just produce at night
or then theres always
http://www.recordingconnection.com/...=googleNEWYORK1
then they could place you. Keep in mind you dont have to be trained professionally and been in the business for years to be noticed it really all boils down to having the right sound at the right time and doing some marketing ,i know we all did not take marketing 101 in high school but now i wish i did! |
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| cronodevir |
| My country doesn't have jobs :( |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lolo
If I want to get regular gigs nowadays, I have to lower my fee to less than 100 Euro. You know how much trouble gigs by plane can be. And besides that, there are plenty of whores inside this industry playing for less, 50 Euros, or for free. I think that even 600 Euros a gig is ridiculous for someone with my history at times, but I remain humble and am happy to play for even less, or free. Soon I'll have to pay in order to play gigs if things should go on that way. But that's not a priority for me anymore, so I don't take this too seriously. But still, it looks like the red light district of dance music 3.0 won't shut tomorrow. Keeps me worried for the huge talent there is among us.
Sorry, but I have a lot less trouble teaching a few people how to use sequencers, synths, fx, and dj tools, and that's why I've been focusing on that lately. At least some of them treat you with respect.
As long as there's no legal rule for artists (fixed and categorized fees, royalty share, and so on), for promoters (cultural diversity), and radio stations, there's no change in the plans, believe me, the dance music industry will remain the same old sandbox full of kids crap that it is right now.
Now you have my opinion about this, but it's only mine. Many are happy in this industry, too. It's easy spitting bull out on this industry but we are ALL responsible for it. |
Indeed mate, more and more people doing it nowadays very much saturated. |
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| archaudio |
| Sell Tupperware... |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnus
Work for a small technology company that prides itself on employee quality of life. If it wasn't for this, I would not nearly have as much time as I do. I can basically come and go as I please just as long as I get my work done. |
I don't think that is something reserved to small tech companies. I work with a lot of large tech company's like Amazon, eBay and Apple and they all seem to be very casual companies just like that... |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lolo
If I want to get regular gigs nowadays, I have to lower my fee to less than 100 Euro. You know how much trouble gigs by plane can be. And besides that, there are plenty of whores inside this industry playing for less, 50 Euros, or for free. I think that even 600 Euros a gig is ridiculous for someone with my history at times, but I remain humble and am happy to play for even less, or free. Soon I'll have to pay in order to play gigs if things should go on that way. |
I thought this was an interesting comment. It really does just go to show that producers don't really get enough credit. The tiesto's and armin's of the community have absolutely no trouble getting gigs and getting paid well for them, yet even though producers like you make so much of the music those guys play, you aren't well known enough yourself to draw the crowds. I don't think it's a surprise, just bitter sweet... |
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| Aesthetic |
| More emphasis on bitter, Floorfiller =) |
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| johncannons1 |
i work in a big finance company selling investments.. didnt have to goto uni or anything.. that gives me quite a good wage..
but that mixed with general mid week things leaves zero time
during the week but i try and rape my weekends with music production usually.
but if u go have a big night that messes up the next day...
i do dj too.. maybe once or twice a month .. pays alright depending where i play..
but all in all i love the money of my job been there 9 months
but when i was working casual for a few years just after i finished school.. i could mess around with djing and music production as much as i wanted...
but u take the good with the bad i guess.. |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
i work in a big finance company selling investments.. didnt have to goto uni or anything.. that gives me quite a good wage..
but that mixed with general mid week things leaves zero time
during the week but i try and rape my weekends with music production usually.
but if u go have a big night that messes up the next day...
i do dj too.. maybe once or twice a month .. pays alright depending where i play..
but all in all i love the money of my job been there 9 months
but when i was working casual for a few years just after i finished school.. i could mess around with djing and music production as much as i wanted...
but u take the good with the bad i guess.. |
Indeed, just go with whats working for you, if have a good job or studying then keep at it. eventually if you keep on producing when you can it will all pay off. Just have to wait.
Totally understand the going out thing, may as well right off the next day completely. |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
I thought this was an interesting comment. It really does just go to show that producers don't really get enough credit. The tiesto's and armin's of the community have absolutely no trouble getting gigs and getting paid well for them, yet even though producers like you make so much of the music those guys play, you aren't well known enough yourself to draw the crowds. I don't think it's a surprise, just bitter sweet... |
unsurprisingly, indeed. But I came to a point I don't want to make any compromise in life anymore. That's a risky way business-wise, but I'm sure it will pay off some day. If people want to keep supporting dj's or musicians who actually can't play just a little bit keys, it's none of my business. I'm a bad performer myself, but at least I'm sweating and take a lot of risks when playing out. Don't you think that it'll pay off much more in the end? One thing is sure, when some will disappear I'll still be there. Musicians remain, douchebags don't. |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lolo
unsurprisingly, indeed. But I came to a point I don't want to make any compromise in life anymore. That's a risky way business-wise, but I'm sure it will pay off some day. If people want to keep supporting dj's or musicians who actually can't play just a little bit keys, it's none of my business. I'm a bad performer myself, but at least I'm sweating and take a lot of risks when playing out. Don't you think that it'll pay off much more in the end? One thing is sure, when some will disappear I'll still be there. Musicians remain, douchebags don't. |
really great posts on this page, and your most recent post on your site as well mate, really good to see some real, honest perspectives on the scene from someone who actually KNOWS (and isn't just a dj)... |
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