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Adding stereo width to your tracks (pg. 2)
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| jupiterone |
| i've been getting into surround sound a lot recently |
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| Pjotr G |
you can position some (mono) sounds somewhere in the stereo image not in the middle. 60's rock really went overboard with this and I love listening to that, it's so spatious.
A bit easier: stereo echo's/delays. For example left it's 1 beat, right it's 3/4 beat.
With recordings of conventional instruments (say guitars) or vocals, record 2 takes and pan each one hard on opposite sides. |
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| Ry Thomas |
| quote: | Originally posted by farris
Guess we'll have to wait and see then :) |
Yeah, i expect it will be a good tutorial though |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pjotr G
you can position some (mono) sounds somewhere in the stereo image not in the middle. 60's rock really went overboard with this and I love listening to that, it's so spatious.
A bit easier: stereo echo's/delays. For example left it's 1 beat, right it's 3/4 beat.
With recordings of conventional instruments (say guitars) or vocals, record 2 takes and pan each one hard on opposite sides. |
True, but mono sounds should really always panned somewhere in the stereo field unless they are sounds that won't work elsewhere (i.e. kick in the middle).
If you're recording conventional instruments and panning to either side, one has to be slightly before or after the other, even on different takes as there will be some phasing/masking/etc. at points otherwise.
I really like the PSP multitap delay - it lets you set the width, volume, amount (etc.) of each tap individually.
Subtle - the Waves autopanner is really good.
Bojive, you're tip about the snare; (I know there's no rules to anything) but shouldn't snares actually be panned very slightly to one side or the other? Haven't tried it yet but the tip you've got there will have it front and centre.
A slightly different way of adding width is to add depth. Everyhting should have separation (or it's own space) in the stereo field but you can spearate similar frequency sounds by making them above or below other sounds.
For instance (jaytech does this a lot) to have a light airy pad sit above the other elements, back off on the channel volume and add a lot of reverb (basically a very wet mix and high gain) and have the reverb provide more (than usual) of the volume of that sound. With the right reverb and settings, it makes it sit above everything else and will give that pad a lot of space. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Bojive, you're tip about the snare; (I know there's no rules to anything) but shouldn't snares actually be panned very slightly to one side or the other? Haven't tried it yet but the tip you've got there will have it front and centre. |
I always put my snares front and center. Never saw a reason to pan them, personally... |
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| ponsshin |
| Thanks Mr JiveboJingles! |
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| ReclusNdangrmnt |
| Some useful stuff in here, thanks JBJ :D |
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| Acton |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Another good trick is to have one synth on each side with LFOs going at slightly different speeds. |
Never thought of that one!
Good shout :) |
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| mzvirbulis |
You may think that a stereo widener puts just a delay on one channel giving that wider feel, but i dont think thats right.
For me i believe it works on M/S decoding and turning up and playing with sideband information. This band (difference) creates a wider feel when you turn it's balance up. |
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| Eldritch |
| quote: | Originally posted by mzvirbulis
You may think that a stereo widener puts just a delay on one channel giving that wider feel, but i dont think thats right.
For me i believe it works on M/S decoding and turning up and playing with sideband information. This band (difference) creates a wider feel when you turn it's balance up. |
Yeah, I agree. However delaying one channel is still a great way of adding alot of stereo width to a mono sound.
I've been doing alot of mid-side EQing lately, it's a very powerful way of sculpting the stereo image of a sound. |
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| pactdonkey |
hi just a quick one, do u all do this at the mixing stage or the production phase?
Cheers |
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| djsphere |
| quote: | Originally posted by pactdonkey
hi just a quick one, do u all do this at the mixing stage or the production phase?
Cheers |
i always redo the mixing, eq, compression after i added another sound. it is a matter of preference though. |
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