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Making trance in reason (pg. 2)
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| DeZmA |
Go to reasonstation and download some of the most popular reason songs. Learn from them as some of them are actually quite good. (Some digital art stuff for example).
That's what I did when I got reason 4. |
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| Reno |
I had the same problem as you did. Was never convinced that Reason could give me the trance sounds I was looking for until I heard some of the professional tracks that have been produced solely on Reason and managed to get hold of some of the track files.
I would say it is absolutely essential to have Vengeance sample packs or similar plus some good refills such as those mentioned already i.e. digital art. Creating trancy synths particularly leads and pads is extremely difficult if you don't fully understand how to use the synths and effects. For example to create a really good patch you need to be layering multiple synths in the combinator and routing to multiple effects also created in the combinator. Load up some of the refills mentioned and you will see what I mean.
In the end however it ultimately comes down to mixing as that is where the art truely lies and that takes practise and is indeed something I still struggle with no matter how good the melodies and patches sound. |
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| Reno |
| Further to my last comment I would say however that changing to a DAW that supports VST's may give you the inspiration you're looking for. I use Reason rewired into Cubase now as with VST's you can have an awesome patch loaded within seconds. Plus I have an Access Virus TI (yum). I do think the Reason redrum and subtractor for bass are hard to beat with VST's hence the fact I still use those. I would never discount Reason altogether. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Having used Reason for a few years I can say its DEF much less friendly for trance than a workstation like Fruity.
However Reason does have some extremely useful features that can be used along with another program (like Fruity) to do pretty much anything you need.
I still say that little subtractor m/fkr makes nicer basslines than any vst (commercial or non) I've hosted in FL. I mean subtractor gets some really sharp, deep, and thick sounds.
Even with massive there seems to be a certain character I can't get that subtractor can do. Plus all the native affects processors in Reason seem to be better imo. FL's chorus/flanger make completely different sounds and their really dull.
call me crazy |
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| lowski |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Having used Reason for a few years I can say its DEF much less friendly for trance than a workstation like Fruity.
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how is it much less friendly? i think everything is really good except it could have a better EQ and should have a freq analyzer |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by lowski
freq analyzer |
learn the vocoder man! :D |
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| Theran |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reno
I had the same problem as you did. Was never convinced that Reason could give me the trance sounds I was looking for until I heard some of the professional tracks that have been produced solely on Reason and managed to get hold of some of the track files. |
Daniel Kandi produces his tracks with Reason only! Hence the name of his new track with Robert Nickson, Rewire ;) |
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| Stef |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theran
Daniel Kandi produces his tracks with Reason only! Hence the name of his new track with Robert Nickson, Rewire ;) |
I believe he runs hardware as well. Some of his sounds just seem impossible with reason. |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stef
I believe he runs hardware as well. Some of his sounds just seem impossible with reason. |
people seems to underestimate reason alot lately, i wonder why, many people make great music with it. many master outside maybe on analog compressors etc to warm up and push up the levels but the music itself made in reason can be very good. |
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| pwnage1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
people seems to underestimate reason alot lately, i wonder why, many people make great music with it. many master outside maybe on analog compressors etc to warm up and push up the levels but the music itself made in reason can be very good. |
I really like the work-flow of reason, i think it is a terrific plug in, and although it sounds somewhat digital, i get some of my favourite sounds out of it.
My computer atm is a piece of , so i make a melody export it to audio, drum loop, export it etc. And then i arrange it in acid pro. I also, have fl studio which i use for software synths. I think in a mix Reason sounds great, Especially my drums that come out of it, for some reason (to me) they sound a lot punchier and fuller. |
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| JmanNZ |
| I'm still very new to trance production, less that 6 months... I started using reason, and found that while I learnt loads about routing and modulation etc... (the operations manual is a good read), I struggled to make anything more that utter crap. Then I got abletons free witha keyboard and that opened my world. VST's with awesome presets, abletons clip view is amazing for arranging if you just want to play around... Anyway, my opinion is that Reason is great to learn with and Im sure you can make it sound good if you know what your doing, but I've been having much more success since moving on. |
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| JmanNZ |
| something that helped me was picking a good trance track that i though was relativey simple and try and copy it. half way through it turned into my own creation, but an excellent starting point. |
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