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Pro DJs and hearing loss
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| Kia Kaha |
Morning all ...
Went out clubbing last night and had a bloody good time ... woke up in bed about lunchtime today with that familiar feeling of jelly legs from dancing, sweaty club clothes strewn on floor, a healthy feeling of residual euphoria and a in unbelievable ringing in my ears ... I'm sure y'all have experienced similar things :D :D :D
Been thinking about it today and am seriously wondering. I have a job right now where I have to meet certain medical standards and hearing is one of them, if I lose too much of my hearing then I'm f****d basically. I also love going out dancing on a weekend, and while I'm only a bedroom DJ now it's something I would love to get into, properly spinning in clubs.
So my question is, how the hell do those pro DJs do this , year in and year out without suffering massive permanent tinnitis? Anyone got any good advice? Normal ear plugs make the music sound like , I tried some of those flash 'musicians' ear plugs one time as well, but they kept on falling out. |
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| Gluegun |
Many do suffer massive hearing loss. Why do you think the midbass on headphones like the sony mdr-v700dj's is so physical, overriding every other frequency with boomy midbass you feel, sacraficing all other parts of the sound to get this under all circumstances?
So deaf dj's can spin with them, of course!
So, to PREVENT becoming deaf, invest in a set of Sennheiser HD280 Pro headphones, since those isolate a lot and let you use much quieter volume levels, and buy a set of Etymotic ER20 earplugs for when you wanna be in a club and enjoy the music. Those earplugs are better than others cause they are like AVLS for your ears -- they let you still hear the music, but it's all reduced evenly, and the peaks are more normal. That's why they are musician's earplugs instead of like, bedtime earplugs.... |
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| zapper |
Ha, ha, ha :)
Just another opportunity for Gluegun to show how much he despises the MDR-V700's... I respect your opinion, but seriously, they ARE good for DJing. Well, I don't want to start another discussion about this, so... end of story.
And to Kia Kaha, I don't know, but I guess most DJs who have been spinning for a while do get reduced hearing, that's logical. |
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| j_spot |
well the V700 are great for DJs who learn them. And its quite easy to do so when you have moderate hearing damage from all the music we listen to.
but yes, wear earplugs..maybe not the etys because they cost hella lot. But go to a music store(like for musicians) and ask if they have anything, they might just tell you to go to a hardware store. |
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| Gluegun |
| Hey, those headphones and DJ headphones like them are good for DJ's that have hearing loss, which is all that I was saying... |
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| j_spot |
and I was wrong, its the ety headphones that cost hella lot
the etymonic earplugs only cost $10, and are reuseable |
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| DJ Chrono |
If you are really serious about this, go to an audiologist. they can make a mold of your inner ear, and form plugs to specifically stick in their.. and then you buy things called filters. There are differnt strengths, ranging from 10db to 30db.. And the good thing about these are that the frequency range is UNALTERED.. just the volume is lower.. so you can hear the same physical sound quality without damaging your ears. they fit niceless too, and dont stick out like some, so DJ heaphone wearing is good.
the only problem is that these are a bit pricey.. i've heard about $350 canadian.. but they do last for ever. and filters are replaceable.
hearing is a valuble thing, investing $350 to insure u dont go deaf isnt that bad.
Also Magnesium helps to prevent hearing loss.. so if you dont want to shell out the cash for plugs, take magnesium. |
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| mindshooter |
I hear the ringing everytime i try to sleep and its all quiet... even though i havent been on a party. So you could say that im already to late :( I havent been to many parties. And when i have..ive used earplugs. But its my freestyle who got me. I listened to loud. And i always used headphones by the computer. I raised the volume more and more, everyday. You know what i mean. You get used to the sound. Now ive read that when your ears get used to a certain volume. That means that they already took damage. So if you raise the volume. You will just get worse. Which i did :rolleyes:
Now i cant use headphones more. And when i do i use them on a VERY low volume. I get pain in my ears everytime i go to the cinema. Its really painfull. Dont make my misstake! Its not worth it. I had to lay down all DJ dreams ive ever had. I had even collected money to buy equipment but i just had to forget that now. Tinnitus can never get better, only worse. And one day you wake up with a ringing over 70 DB in your ear (louder than a vaccum cleaner) which you will have the rest of your life.
Peace |
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| quddha |
| quote: | Originally posted by mindshooter
I hear the ringing everytime i try to sleep and its all quiet... even though i havent been on a party. So you could say that im already to late :( I havent been to many parties. And when i have..ive used earplugs. But its my freestyle who got me. I listened to loud. And i always used headphones by the computer. I raised the volume more and more, everyday. You know what i mean. You get used to the sound. Now ive read that when your ears get used to a certain volume. That means that they already took damage. So if you raise the volume. You will just get worse. Which i did :rolleyes:
Now i cant use headphones more. And when i do i use them on a VERY low volume. I get pain in my ears everytime i go to the cinema. Its really painfull. Dont make my misstake! Its not worth it. I had to lay down all DJ dreams ive ever had. I had even collected money to buy equipment but i just had to forget that now. Tinnitus can never get better, only worse. And one day you wake up with a ringing over 70 DB in your ear (louder than a vaccum cleaner) which you will have the rest of your life.
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damn dude, my condolences. that must REALLY suck. i will take good care of my ears from now on, and not take them for granted, I couldn't imagine what life would be like if I couldn't listen to all the details of my music. |
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| mindshooter |
| quote: | Originally posted by quddha
I couldn't imagine what life would be like if I couldn't listen to all the details of my music. |
Its not that bad yet... I never hear the ringing except when its total silence..but as i said...it can only get worse and no operation in the world can make it go away.
Out of 9 million swedish ppl 1.5 million ppl has tinnitus.
Its not hard to get. And ppl who loves music are in the danger zone.
Take care alright ;) |
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| Gluegun |
*Proudly holds up his Etymotic ER20's (the transparent red ones) with the matching red string to hold them together.*
*Drapes the string around his neck...*
w00t! |
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| Kia Kaha |
Hmmm
been looking at that Etymotic website and it's quite interesting ...
What do you reckon about those in-ear monitors / ear plug things then, could you use those for trance mixing? |
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