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How closely do you listen to new music?
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
An exchange that happened in the Production Studio forum:
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I would expect labels to be just like me when I'm hearing new music.
I listen to the first 15 seconds.
If it doesn't grab me I randomly drag the arrow somewhere in the middle of the track, if theres nothing interesting happening I go right click > delete. |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Heh. This is what music listening has come to in our modern throwaway generation... |
I'm often like Robby: when hearing a new track I just skip around to see if anything grabs me rather than listening to it all the way through and then evaluating it as a whole.
I think this habit comes from the fact there's such a huge amount of music out there now and it's so easy to access: if something doesn't grab you immediately, it's very easy just to keep sifting until you find something that does. It also probably has something to do with the fact that it's much easier to skip around within digital media...
Do you engage in this rather shallow, breezy way of testing out new music? It seems to me that this habit is now pretty common among people I've met. If it is common, does that say anything about the quality of the music itself and the kind of listening it encourages (e.g. full attention vs. shallow engagement)? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I have to pay close attention to new music when I'm reviewing it. Sometimes it seems like the people who've signed and played the stuff before I get there haven't paid much attention at all. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Then again, maybe we could distinguish between actual "listening" and just "previewing." Once I buy or download a new track in its entirety, I usually listen closely to it... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
The dynamic of being able to listen to everything before you buy is different to how it used to be anyway. I've heard people on these forums say they'd never buy a record without having heard a fair chunk of it, and even going as far as to say that people who do are foolish. Then again I often buy completely blind and think it's somehow more satisfying to hear an entire album or compilation for the first time without knowing any of it from previous experience and still enjoying it.
There's probably a significant difference between doing this with entire albums/compilations and individual singles/tracks, however.
I replied to your post over on TC, by the way. |
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| daphunky1 |
Well when using beatport samples, they are already short enough, but I still scan ahead and look quickly for the "grab". 10 seconds per track probably. From there I might enjoy it so I listen to the full sample over (and over)... and then buy it.
I've often thought about the shallowness of my track listening, and how especially with edm the whole song is (usually) a careful structure or journey. But I came to the conclusion that I'm pretty good at finding what's good and bad very quickly. If if the right tempo, groovy/melodic, and a good bassline it only take a couple seconds to hear that. I don't care about the breakdown/build up of a track when I'm buying it. If the peak is good, then the rest should compliment the peak.
But after I buy a track, I try to sit down, put on my headphones, smoke some weed, and give the track my full attention from start to finish. |
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| Clovis |
It's all relative. If the underlying main elements of a tune suck, theres no reason for me to think it will have any reedeeming qualities good enough to overcome that. If they're mediocre, I'm more inclined to listen longer for a further payoff. And if they're awesome from the start, I DEFINITELY listen to as much available to determine if anything will that up at some point.
This is all re: 4/4 dance music for DJing though. Ambient, chill-out, jazz, and pretty much all other styles of music require more attention. |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
If you're using a large download store like beatport to track new releases, then its a huge problem... over a given week a genre can have 300+ new tracks to check.
Must say i follow Daphunky's browsing technique, when i've liked a sample it gets thrown in the cart, and one evening a week i'll clean up my cart by finding full length clips at youtube or myspace to get a better impression before potentially wasting money.
I'm a huge huge fan of what Juno have done with their catalog. You can get daily emails detailing all new releases in the genres of your choice, you have the ability to load up all these tracks in a continuous play option, perfect for a lazy listening between meetings in the office, and then there is a proper wishlist function unlike the pricey Beatport. |
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| woscar99 |
| Beatport has made a ing annoying habit out of cutting their samples just a few seconds before the track peaks. A very large percentage of their samples are just 2 minute buildups that never quite climax. |
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| Ben Brown |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar99
Beatport has made a ing annoying habit out of cutting their samples just a few seconds before the track peaks. A very large percentage of their samples are just 2 minute buildups that never quite climax. |
nice marketing trick :P |
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| enydo |
| I actually kinda noticed that this morning. |
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| SMC |
With new releases/tracks and artists i don't completely "trust" i usually skip through the tracks to determine whether they're worth listening to or not. In EDM there's so much eventless, boring music and there's also so much great music (in general, but also in EDM) i've yet to listen to, so i wouldn't wanna waste any of my time.
I still get fooled at times though. I skipped through the first two tracks of the new Extrawelt album, i thought they sounded good, and they are indeed very nice. And then the rest of the album was a complete waste of time. :clown: |
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| airwalker1 |
it all depends on when and how you hear the music.
but yeah i'm defiantly guilty off giving songs(a small time frame)
before i come to any real conclusions.
this is prevalent more so with a genure in mind.
being fussy i think is only understandable to those who really understand music (producers fall into this catagre more so then not)as their ears are trained and finely tuned. |
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