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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
Quebecers in general are very lazy workers. |
watch it.
I have worked with lots of different people and I could tell you that being as black or white as you seem to put is completely ignorant and stupid especially coming from an older dude like you. You should be wiser than that.
Quebecois are far from being the laziest in the workplace, I actually admire some of them who day in day out are able to be at the office before me and out after me :p |
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| malek |
Parizeau avait raison
Dire que nous avons condamné les propos de Parizeau, le traitant même de "dangereux d'extrême droite", "d'Hitler" parce qu'il avait dit la vérité. Dire que nous serions peut-être en train de fêter le dixième anniversaire de la naissance d'un nouveau pays le QUÉBEC. J'ai pleuré à l'époque devant cette défaite, aujourd'hui je rage. Tout ça orchestré par des québécois. Triste réalité.
Voici les propos de Benoît Corbeil. Venant de l'ancien directeur général du Parti libéral du Canada au Québec
« Aujourd'hui, si on me pose la question (M. Parizeau avait-il raison), je suis obligé de dire oui, a dit M. Corbeil au cours d'un entretien, hier. Venant de moi, c'est assez particulier. C'est clair que la stratégie (du Parti libéral), c'était de faire sortir le vote ethnique au maximum. Si nous avions gagné par 300 000 électeurs, j'aurais dit non (c'est-à-dire que M. Parizeau n'avait pas raison). Mais lorsqu'on regarde les résultats du référendum, la réponse est oui. »
Les forces du NON ont gagné le référendum par un peu plus de 50 000 voix (50,6 % du total). M. Corbeil était déjà actif au sein du Parti libéral du Canada au Québec (PLC-Q). Il dit qu'il a pu voir, de proche, comment le bureau du premier ministre Jean Chrétien a agi pour le gagner.
« Il y a eu une accélération du processus menant à la citoyenneté de milliers d'immigrants au Québec, dit-il. Ce n'était pas difficile: plusieurs commissaires à l'immigration étaient liés au parti. Jean Chrétien a fait un discours à la nation, un en français et un autre en anglais, qui n'était pas identique et qui contenait un message particulier pour les groupes ethniques. »
« Puis il y a eu la fameuse manifestation d'amour du Canada au centre-ville de Montréal. Bien qu'actif au parti, je n'ai été mis au courant qu'à la dernière minute. J'étais chargé d'aller chercher les manifestants du Manitoba à l'aéroport de Dorval. Je les ai amenés en autobus jusqu'au square Dominion. Puis je suis monté au 33e étage du Château Champlain; il y avait là plusieurs membres du bureau du premier ministre et d'autres personnes qui surveillaient la manifestation, armés de jumelles et de caméras. »
C'était clair que l'organisation de la manifestation avait coûté très cher, et c'était aussi clair que cette dépense ne respectait pas la loi sur les référendums au Québec, ajoute M. Corbeil. Selon lui, le programme de commandites a suivi dans cet état d'esprit: il fallait combattre le mouvement souverainiste par tous les moyens, c'est-à-dire avec beaucoup d'argent, quitte à ne pas toujours respecter la loi.
« À l'époque, pour moi, les déclarations de Jacques Parizeau (ancien premier ministre du Québec), c'était de la folie. Avec le recul, 10 ans plus tard, je dis que ce n'était pas une folie. »
Pascal Garceau |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
watch it.
I have worked with lots of different people and I could tell you that being as black or white as you seem to put is completely ignorant and stupid especially coming from an older dude like you. You should be wiser than that.
Quebecois are far from being the laziest in the workplace, I actually admire some of them who day in day out are able to be at the office before me and out after me :p |
You do know that statistically Quebecers put in less hours in the workplace than in the rest of canada? How many people do you know holding down 60 hours to get ahead(not talking cash here, career.)?
This does not mean every Quebecer is lazy, but there are many who are very care free when it comes to taking careers seriously. Many get stuck here quicker at lower wages due to this. You also can not ignore that Quebec does not only count Montreal.;)
I thought you were seperatist man...Lucien Bouchard called the Quebecois lazy a few years back.:p He did this for pretty much the same reasons as stated, and like him or not he was Premier and probably knows a thing or 2. |
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| malek |
of course i know about what Lucien said, but his intention wasn't to call everyone lazy. If you look at the document submitted that night, and the press conference was about that, it was about over-unionization and little productivity because companies don't invest enough in better tools.
You can work hard as a donkey every day but if you don't have the right tools, you won't produce . Also unionized workers usually have shorter weeks (35h is the maximum in govt for example). |
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| elFreak |
| Don't even get me started on ing unions:p |
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| malek |
| same here man... i was unionized against my will for 4 years:whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| Fran666 |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
You do know that statistically Quebecers put in less hours in the workplace than in the rest of canada? How many people do you know holding down 60 hours to get ahead(not talking cash here, career.)?
This does not mean every Quebecer is lazy, but there are many who are very care free when it comes to taking careers seriously. Many get stuck here quicker at lower wages due to this. You also can not ignore that Quebec does not only count Montreal.;)
I thought you were seperatist man...Lucien Bouchard called the Quebecois lazy a few years back.:p He did this for pretty much the same reasons as stated, and like him or not he was Premier and probably knows a thing or 2. |
all statitics don't take in count black market which is mostly based in quebec and is estimated at 25% canadian gross production. So people probably work more but not accounted for. this is what happen in countries with high taxes. higher the taxes, higher the black economy. Scandinavians are the exception, but they have way more troubling problems with all their conformist society. |
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| elFreak |
| You don't pay your taxes you don't count, and should not be allowed any rights. Burdens. |
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| Fran666 |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
You don't pay your taxes you don't count, and should not be allowed any rights. Burdens. |
i know but it exist and trust me banque du canada counts on it right now lol
spend the drug money, spend the drug money lol |
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| julien2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
You do know that statistically Quebecers put in less hours in the workplace than in the rest of canada? How many people do you know holding down 60 hours to get ahead(not talking cash here, career.)?
This does not mean every Quebecer is lazy, but there are many who are very care free when it comes to taking careers seriously. Many get stuck here quicker at lower wages due to this. You also can not ignore that Quebec does not only count Montreal.;)
I thought you were seperatist man...Lucien Bouchard called the Quebecois lazy a few years back.:p He did this for pretty much the same reasons as stated, and like him or not he was Premier and probably knows a thing or 2. |
I think this might be a cultural thing. I am not judging if it's right or wrong, but I think many Québécois have a more hedonistic way of life.
Famile/Leisure over work. I know of many people who would rather earn less but have more time to bike, spend time with children, or apply their time to whatever.
Compared to USA and Canada, I believe this way of life is more frequent in Quebec, whether it's a good thing or not. |
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| Fran666 |
this index includes gross domestic production per capita, leisure and criminal activity. Canada = 4th country in the world
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classement_IDH_des_pays
this index is gross domestic production per capita. Canada = 14th country in the world (by IMF calculation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nal)_per_capita
which tends to prove our points considering canada as a whole.
same thing applies for quebec vs canada... worse accounted figures, but when we get in the subjective we are better off. |
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| Tagatron |
I don't think anyone can argue that quebecois are not lazy. They do work less than everyone else in Canada. Look at France, they work less than any other european country and strike all the time.
French put higher values on other aspects of life other than career and money. This isn't a bad thing, but don't try to argue that french aren't lazy. |
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