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enydo - Stumbling In The Dark [Techy, Housey, Proggy] (pg. 3)
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| woscar99 |
OK, I listened to the first 15 minutes on my ride home last night listened to the whole thing again this morning. I think it was very good for a first effort. Although I agree with this right here:
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
Try mixing out earlier, the first track lasted until past 10 minutes . It is just my opinion, but a long drawn out beginning of mix makes people lose interest. |
I thought the beginning was specially good, while the first track might have dragged for too long, it didn't make me lose interest at all and the transition into the next track was very well done.
Regarding the flow of your set, I thought it was good for the most part. I thought the placement of 'Beautiful Strange' was a bit weird coming right after such a melodic prog track like 'A Break in the Clouds'. I see the direction you began to take with that track and then with 'Dinosaur Adventure 3D' after that, it's just that the change seemed a bit abrupt, if you know what I mean ;)
I really enjoyed how you keep it bangin' it with some nice dark prog tracks and then you begin to slow things down with 'Little Bullet', (it reminds me of Xpander a bit) to set up your finale with the Engineers track. I love that track, among the few highlights on Invol2ver and works wonders as a closer.
This was a very solid first effort mate, keep 'em coming!
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
i look forward to seeing how you improve:) |
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| enydo |
| Thanks man. Yeah, I was aiming for a bit of a dark atmosphere with this, so I'm glad the proggy section came off like that. The transition after A Break In The Clouds was definitely abrupt, flow and fitting tracks together is definitely something I need to work on. |
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| iammesol |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
Thanks man. Yeah, I was aiming for a bit of a dark atmosphere with this, so I'm glad the proggy section came off like that. The transition after A Break In The Clouds was definitely abrupt, flow and fitting tracks together is definitely something I need to work on. |
just practice a lot and it will come naturally. The longer you jam, the more you will start noticing certain patterns and how they work well with each track. No beatmatching does not mean no practice:) |
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| RJT |
Alright then, finally feeling motivated to type this out - might get a bit wordy or "preachy", but I figure with this being your first mix I'd really like to see if I can toss you some pretty specific advice that I think might help you out.
As many have already pointed out, this is a pretty good effort for a first mix, and considering you're working with a mouse and a keyboard I'll give you even more points :p
That being said, the thing I guess I'd say to start focusing on is how your tunes are phrased. The best advice I have ever been given as a DJ is to work on the phrasing of mixes more than anything else, because when you can figure out how many beats/seconds/phrases you have until X happens, you can really avoid the longer drawn out mixes. This is something that to this day I feel like I have a lot of work to do on.
Programming is important as well, and that's obviously something a few people have pointed out already, so I'm just going to say that IMO, programming comes along with starting to know your tracks, and it just gets more and more natural as you practice and play more.
Now, as for advice - I basically have two things I'd say could really help, though some may disagree with at least one of them.
First, listen to your tracks, all the time. Make a playlist, throw it on, and do this as often as possible. It may seem very, very obvious advice, but honestly, the times when I fall off as a DJ are when I don't know what the it is I'm playing. Like anything else, good study habits will breed sound DJ'ing, and also like anything else, if you stop doing this for an extended period of time you can get rusty.
Second, and I don't know if this will sound stupid or not, but maybe try to do an arrange view mix sometime, even if just for yourself. In doing this, you're going to learn very, very quickly how your tracks are phrased, you'll also be able to visualize what some of the more clever mixes you can come up with look like. Sometimes it's just seeing something from a wildly different perspective that makes our understanding of it more complete, and you might find that what you have to do on a mixer/MIDI controller in the future makes more sense when you have a visual aid attached to it.
Your taste is music is pretty darn good, and for a first mix that has some ups and downs with regard to flow, the tracks do all fit together nicely as a total package, so you're further along already than lots of folks.
Now just keep it up. :) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Damn, your first mix here gets more replies than my last one. Since you've given a lot of support to my stuff I reckon the least I can do is download this and give you some feedback. Besides, any set with Little Bullet in is a set I have time for. |
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| elFreak |
what you got against long mixes rjt:p
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Damn, your first mix here gets more replies than my last one. Since you've given a lot of support to my stuff I reckon the least I can do is download this and give you some feedback. Besides, any set with Little Bullet in is a set I have time for. |
he has always been supportive of TA dj's even though he was not one himself. It should serve as a lesson to those that do not get replies:) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
he has always been supportive of TA dj's even though he was not one himself. It should serve as a lesson to those that do not get replies:) |
I know that's the reality of it, but it does add weight to the argument that this forum is a big circle-jerk: you download mine and I'll download yours. With that said, I've downloaded and given big bumps to sets by people who've never commented on my mixes. |
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| RJT |
It really just depends on your perspective, "Circle Jerk" and the "Golden Rule" seem to be largely interchangeable.
I prefer to interpret it as the latter. |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know that's the reality of it, but it does add weight to the argument that this forum is a big circle-jerk: you download mine and I'll download yours. With that said, I've downloaded and given big bumps to sets by people who've never commented on my mixes. |
as i think we all have.:)
of course it is easier for people to do things this way, and it pretty much is the way things are in the real world as well.
anyone who thinks different is just jealous in the basement of mothers but sounding good in the club as a tool. |
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| Seppuku |
| Going to check this out since you're from Atlanta and I think I've met you for like 0.2 seconds at Steel. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
It really just depends on your perspective, "Circle Jerk" and the "Golden Rule" seem to be largely interchangeable.
I prefer to interpret it as the latter. |
I just mention it because a lot of people (probably bitter from the lack of attention their fluff trance hit parade mix has received) have accused this place of being one large clique, and plenty of people at the time made remarks to the effect of "I download some people's mixes because they have good taste", as if mutual back-slapping and friendship aren't factors.
I'm not complaining, because I think I've been quite lucky in that I've had lots of feedback in the past even though I haven't downloaded as many TA mixes as I'd have liked- due to time time, hard drive space or connection issues- and I'm partaking in it a little here. The other side of the coin is that Endyo has shown his tastes are similar to mine by downloading and praising my mixes so I'm more likely to take a stab on something he's put together, and it helps that there are some great tracks on this mix.
Anyway, enough of this derailment- I'll give it a listen tonight or tomorrow. |
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