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question regarding the tb-303
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| jupiterone |
| so, it's become this classic, vintage, legendary unit over the course of 20+ years, the demand is there but no one feels like dishing 1.5k+ for it. why exactly hasn't roland tried releasing a sequel unit but with improvements and a range of features? |
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| Beyer |
Probably because they can�t make it like that anymore. It�s sound was success, but that was just by accident. And it was after it got discontinued.
It was supposed to be a bass guitar "emulator", at which it failed terribly. It did make some people happy, but they didn�sell enough units in the start, so it got discontinued quickly.
They probably couldn�t make a new unit, that had the same sound if they tried. And it wouldn�t be financially viable. I�d like to see a new JP8, but that will most likely never happen. And it would certainly not sound the same.
Or a new CS80! But that�s another story. :) |
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| [Alpha]Dave |
haha yeah, a "JP-9000" with MEGA-SAW waveform! (Instead of super-saw) That'd be nice! :D
*Giving my JP a hug and calmly whispers that I would never replace him <3* |
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| Beyer |
I was thinking a new jupiter 8 :)
But a new jp 9000 with ultrawave or something would be cool as well |
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| Watts |
Roland released something a few years back called the MC-09, and it is Roland's best attempt at recreating the TB-303's sound (in vintage mode that is).
I have both the MC-09 and TB-303. Programming the MC-09 is a bit difficult in my opinion, but it's timbral palette is definitely superior to the TB-303's. |
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beyer
Probably because they can�t make it like that anymore. It�s sound was success, but that was just by accident. And it was after it got discontinued.
It was supposed to be a bass guitar "emulator", at which it failed terribly. It did make some people happy, but they didn�sell enough units in the start, so it got discontinued quickly.
They probably couldn�t make a new unit, that had the same sound if they tried. And it wouldn�t be financially viable. I�d like to see a new JP8, but that will most likely never happen. And it would certainly not sound the same.
Or a new CS80! But that�s another story. :) |
so you're saying they have no clue how to replicate that technology/sound? |
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| Zild |
| They probably don't care since there are a whole slew of analog, VA, and soft mono synths that do roughly the same thing. People want the original because it is the original like any other collectors item. |
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| 3F05Q |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
so, it's become this classic, vintage, legendary unit over the course of 20+ years, the demand is there but no one feels like dishing 1.5k+ for it. why exactly hasn't roland tried releasing a sequel unit but with improvements and a range of features? |
I think part of this can be answered by looking at the x0xb0x. It was a kit that reverse engineered the 303, and did a darn good job of it. To get that unique sound the transistors and other components had to be very carefully chosen, not to mention some parts being rare. As a result the kit is no longer for sale, but you can get the circuit board and schematics. Now, this isn't to say that Roland can't create their original sound by other means, but high volume sales of the original method can't be sustained. |
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| Zombie0729 |
| hypersaw wasn't enough for you two? ;) |
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| atxbigballer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
so, it's become this classic, vintage, legendary unit over the course of 20+ years, the demand is there but no one feels like dishing 1.5k+ for it. why exactly hasn't roland tried releasing a sequel unit but with improvements and a range of features? |
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=486053 |
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| jupiterone |
thanks, watching the vid now
reason i'm asking is because i have the opportunity to buy a 303+909 for 1600$ at a shop here. the guy has brought in like 20 pieces of vintage gear, amongst them are 303, 909 and 808, space echo ect ect., but i'm not so much interested in the 808.
pretty sure many people wouldn't even think twice about it for that price but i've got a list of things that need repair/replacement around the studio
there is something unique about his 303 too, it has this liquidy sound to it. read somewhere that no 303 sounded alike when it was first released, it just sounds so bad ass |
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| kitphillips |
Yeah, but everyone hated it when it was first released. It became popular because a bunch of black kids made a genre called acid house. I agree that roland should lift their game a bit and either rerelease it or create something similar. Their gear is all so bloody pedestrian, its all aimed at the old guy who plays keyboards in the local pub band or people who make music for ads. They should create more stuff which is interesting and out there, but isn't a failure like the Vsynth.
I think more synths with cool step sequencers generally would be a great thing, its been proven to work with the korg electribes, and I know Dave Smith's starting to throw a few step sequencers in there, they're really part of the core of dance music IMO. |
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