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I actually can't think of a suitable thread title for this ridiculousness
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Human Rights and Equal Opportunities Commission pushes for third 'intersex' gender
* Calls for official "intersex" status
* Surgery not necessary to change sex
* Reform push started by human rights group
THE Federal Government's human rights arm plans to invent a new official status called "intersex" adding it to male and female as a legally recognised gender.
The Human Rights and Equal Opportunities Commission wants people to be able to change their gender on their passports and driving licences even if they do not undergo surgery.
And transgender lobby groups say that even this does not go far enough and are demanding a fourth legal gender called "other" for people who feel like their gender is indefinable or changes from day to day.
The extraordinary proposals are contained in a discussion paper quietly issued to transgender and transexual advocates by the commission, a statutory body that advises the Government on such matters.
The paper, entitled "Sex Files - The legal recognition of sex: Proposed reform", says the introduction of the new "intersex" gender is a "key feature of the reform proposal being developed by the commission".
"Recognition of intersex: Persons who cannot or do not identify as either male or female would be able to choose to be identified on their birth certificate and passport as intersex," it says.
"A person who cannot or chooses not to undergo surgery would not be automatically ineligible to request a change in their legal sex."
A response to the report by Sex and Gender Education Australia says there needs to be a fourth legal gender for people who are not even "intersex".
SAGE spokeswoman Tracie O'Keefe, a sexologist whose doctorate comes from a Californian hypnotherapy institute, is the co-author of the book Transpeople in Love, wrote: "The AHRC proposal does not go far enough in providing legal status and social spaces by only allowing people to be male, female and intersex."
Dr O'Keefe, who runs the Australian Health and Education Centre and the International Sex, Gender and Sexuality Clinic in Glebe, said cultures such as Native Americans had more than two genders.
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,2757...683-421,00.html
This is so stupid its not funny. People are genetically male or genetically female.
I'm not so sure about "Dr" O'Keefe either, ing hippie . |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
This is so stupid its not funny. People are genetically male or genetically female. |
Not always. There is such a thing as genetic intersexuality, in which individuals have XXY chromosomes (Klinefelter's). Some people can have ambiguous chromosomes (XX or XY in some cells of the body but other combinations in other parts). There are also many cases in which the possession of genetically "normal" chromosomes (XY or XX) fails to produce the usual, unambiguously male or female genitalia. Some people may have female chromosomes while having a clearly male appearance and genitals, or vice versa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersexuality#Conditions
I don't know how common these actual physical conditions are among those who feel like they are "trapped" in the body type of the wrong sex. But one theory about "transsexuals" is that their brains may have been exposed in utero to an especially high level of the hormones that characterize the "opposite" sex, so even "gender dysphoria" without any obvious physiological component might ultimately have a physical cause as well. |
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| boris_the_bear |
| my brain has been derailed:sadgreen: |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
People are genetically male or genetically female.
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thank you.. Looking at your avatar then this concludes that your brain is still of a primitive form |
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| bananas |
| Ohh stop picking up on one wrong sentence the OP said, this indeed is ing stupid "intersex" u gotta admit that |
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| mezzir |
We should just have the following:
I have a (check all that apply)
[] Penis
[] Vagina |
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| boris_the_bear |
| quote: | Originally posted by mezzir
We should just have the following:
I have a (check all that apply)
[] Penis
[] Vagina
[] Penis but I feel like a woman
[] Vagina but I feel like a man
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| mezzir |
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
fixed |
nah my way's simpler, gender is irrelevant |
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| Project-K |
The comission is suggesting a third gender, not a third sex. People are genetically male or female, but they are not genetically men or women. Gender is culturally determined, and, in fact, some cultures identify more than two. The point being, anyone who feels that their gender identity does not correlate with predefined genders of 'man' or 'woman' should have the right to have their own identities aknowledged, rather than being dictated by the state. |
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| DJ Eco |
| I'm liberal as but this pushes me too far lol... |
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| Armitage |
Gender is not the same thing as sex.
For some reason this is one of those issues where people feel like their ignorant, uninformed "common sense" should trump the facts. |
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| Project-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Armitage
For some reason this is one of those issues where people feel like their ignorant, uninformed "common sense" should trump the facts. |
Isn't every single social issue like that? |
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