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Do you believe in heaven? or hell? (pg. 2)
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| davinox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stanza
I believe in both. Catholics believe in a place called Purgatory. It's a place or time where people go before they are judged.
Personally I don't believe in this ,I'm not Catholic and I just think it doesn't make sense.
Other ppl believe in some weird stuff like 'limbo'. |
many catholics believe that Earth is purgatory. |
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| Trancer85 |
| Im catholic and there is heaven and hell...however i believe only in heaven:toothless |
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| dig2k |
| quote: | Originally posted by davinox
basically.... NO. It's bull. |
| quote: | Originally posted by USSR Junkie
my thoughts exactly!
complete BULL! |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Martijn
OK "christians". Please anser me this not meaning to sound horrible. but u say ur beliefs are based on the bible? please tell me where it speaks of ppl going to heaven to be with god whejn they die? i think ull find it says "the body is conscious of nothing" or in other words what has already been said....its BULL**** |
Thanks for not being offensive to/mean/nasty/critical of christians and for not using any emotive language. Real good of you. I can see you took the time to be diplomatic and avoid upsetting anyone by saying what christians believe in is bull and not just saying no I don't believe in heaven & hell or even giving some reasons...
I believe in both heaven & hell. |
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| Dj Martijn |
| i must say i am sorry. U R right. i meant to put quotation marks round mine to refer to what has already been said. i would not have put it so bluntly, which is y i used ****'s. May I ask Y u believe in both? |
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| davinox |
| quote: | Originally posted by dig2k
Thanks for not being offensive to/mean/nasty/critical of christians and for not using any emotive language. Real good of you. I can see you took the time to be diplomatic and avoid upsetting anyone by saying what christians believe in is bull and not just saying no I don't believe in heaven & hell or even giving some reasons...
I believe in both heaven & hell. |
ok, u want some reasons?
first of all, for all observing purposes, we are carbon-based lifeforms in a large, single entity called the Universe. We die, we decompose, we are concious because we have self-aware brains.
No magic, no souls, no anything.
Now there is this idea that there is a Heaven and Hell brought forth by PEOPLE (not from God's booming voice, but by people.) and certain requirements to get to each. Now this is not a rare occurance that would mean something remarkable must have happened, like God talking to those people. No, it happened in practically every society, but all in many different ways.
Tell me how you can pick one idea created by people, defying all observation, out of the thousands of similar ideas, and claim that is correct? What are the odds that this group of humans is right? Why should any of them be right?
Basically, the ideas of souls and heaven and hell, God and Jesus, are spectacular claims, therefore they need spectacular evidence. They have none. Why can't we just observe and discover, rather than assume that "the bible and Jesus are the answer." or the Koran, or Buddha, or the Native American spirits, or Greek/Roman mythology...
The only way we can learn about our universe is to discover and observe, not to assume rediculous claims. |
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| Slylee |
THIS IS HELL!! hehehe
jk i believe in both |
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| dig2k |
| nm...................................ignore me |
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| davinox |
| quote: | Originally posted by dig2k
nm...................................ignore me |
did you convert to atheism? ;) w00t! |
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| Julie_Spyder |
I dont belive in eather hell or heaven..
i belive that everyone no matter good or bad. goes to the same place.. :nervous: |
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| dig2k |
| quote: | Originally posted by davinox
did you convert to atheism? ;) w00t! |
ROFL nice1, no jus din't want 2 argue ;) |
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| fieroavian |
i believe in both, as i'm a Christian.
| quote: | Originally posted by Julie_Spyder
i belive that everyone no matter good or bad. goes to the same place.. :nervous: |
Julie, may i ask why? |
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