Originally posted by otec
Medvedev is actually a Putin's puppet. Everyone knows that.
obviously the other Russian doesn't. Anyways Russia has always been a hole.
otec
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Originally posted by guerra-monstru
obviously the other Russian doesn't. Anyways Russia has always been a hole.
yeah, true. but still the sexiest girls and smartest brains on this planet live there.
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by guerra-monstru
obviously the other Russian doesn't. Anyways Russia has always been a hole.
I wouldn't go that far. You obviously havent been to countries like Zimbabwe or Pakistan. And many others in between.
And besides - your view is very biased. We all know fully well why you have a grudge against Russia.
The17sss
I don't.... can you fill me in? I thought otec was pro-russia.
otec
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Originally posted by The17sss
I don't.... can you fill me in? I thought otec was pro-russia.
I try to be pro-unbiased.
There are thousands things going in wrong in Russia or the US. I just don't like when people blaming a particular country without giving a damn to study the issue in more details.
otec
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
I wouldn't go that far. You obviously havent been to countries like Zimbabwe or Pakistan. And many others in between.
And besides - your view is very biased. We all know fully well why you have a grudge against Russia.
Tell me, why I don't Mr. ing-puppet Medvedev protecting his statment about the Constitutional State in this little movie?
The17sss
what is that video all about?
guerra-monstru
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
I wouldn't go that far. You obviously havent been to countries like Zimbabwe or Pakistan. And many others in between.
And besides - your view is very biased. We all know fully well why you have a grudge against Russia.
Was it the hookers i used or something?
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by otec
Tell me, why I don't Mr. ing-puppet Medvedev protecting his statment about the Constitutional State in this little movie?
Otec, you are a very confusing individual. Often enough you provide cannon fodder for the anti-Russian sentiment on this forum. I simply cannot even support you on most Russian discussions because we have different approach and views. I look at Russia much differently than you do. Oh, and I wasnt even referring to you in the paragraph you quoted.
otec
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Originally posted by The17sss
what is that video all about?
This video is from protests in Vladivostok against increase in import car tarrifs by the Kremlin.
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Moscow riot police flown in to smash protests against car tarrifs in Vladivostok
Riot police flown in from Moscow clubbed, kicked and arrested dozens of people in Russia’s Far East yesterday as hundreds across the country demonstrated against an increase in car import tariffs.
Officers held around 200 people – including several reporters – as up to 1,000 demonstrators protested for a second day running in Vladivostok. About 200 others rallied in Moscow in support.
Inflation, rising unemployment and a slide in the rouble have driven discontent and the Kremlin fears the deteriorating economic situation could lead to public unrest.
With domestic production suffering, the Government announced this month higher tariffs on imported cars.
Demonstrations have been most vehement in Vladivostok, Russia’s largest Pacific port, through which nearly all cars from Japan are imported.
Hundreds rallied in the city on Saturday for the second weekend in a row. But authorities refused to authorise the demonstration and hundreds of riot police blocked off the city square where it was planned.
Soon after, several hundred people gathered on Vladivostok’s main square – not the planned site of the demonstration. Waiting riot police ordered them to disperse, saying the gathering was illegal. The group refused and began singing and dancing around a traditional Russian New Year’s tree on the square.
Police, some shipped in from Moscow – 5,750 miles to the west – began hauling men and women into waiting vans as onlookers chanted “Fascists!” and “Shame! Shame!”
Officers beat several people with truncheons, threw them to the ground and kicked them. Several parents were detained as their children watched.
“Riot police encircled the group ... even those just passing by, and they started taking people away without any sort of comment,” said Olga Nikolaevna, a 62-year-old retiree who witnessed the incident.
Ten journalists were detained by police, who demanded that several cameramen and photographers turn over videotapes and memory chips. Police wrecked a Japanese TV crew’s video camera, and some journalists were beaten and kicked.
Regional police officials said they were forbidden from saying how many people had been arrested. Protest organizers and witnesses counted more than 100.
Protests over the car tariffs, which take effect next month, were held in more than a dozen cities, with motorists driving in long columns with flags waving.
National TV channels, which are state-controlled, ignored the demonstrations.
In Moscow, about 200 protesters wore yellow ribbons on their jackets and held placards decrying the tariffs, the Government and the rise in consumer prices.
“The Russian people have started to open their eyes to what’s happening in this country,” said Andrei Ivanov, 30.
“The current regime is not acting on behalf of the welfare of the people, but against the welfare of the people.”
The Kremlin has sidelined political opponents and put tight controls on civil society and the media, rolling back many post-Soviet freedoms.
But in recent weeks, migrant workers in the Urals city of Yekaterinburg protested against wage arrears and pensioners in the Siberian town of Barnaul took to the streets to demonstrate about the withdrawal of discounted fares on public transport.
Domestic and foreign car companies’ production cutbacks in Russia and warnings of potential layoffs have added to the Kremlin worries. The industry employs more than 1.5 million workers nationwide.
While car workers have applauded the tariff increase, Russian consumers and others involved in the $30.5 billion car import business have not. Many Russians say they have a right to buy what they want without paying to support the Russian auto industry.
Just check this bit out, Moscow riot police in Vladivostok. It takes about 5 days to get there by train or 5+ hrs by plane. Not to mention the expensive tickets.
This is just ridiculous.
Magnetonium
I highly doubt that Moscow police took a long flight in time for this one as well. Though the police response is pretty ugly. A slap in the face to much progress and development in recent years in Russia. I am very disappointed, but not shocked. I've seen like that myself in 1990s, when I lived in Russia. During Yeltsin's "golden" era.
otec
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
I highly doubt that Moscow police took a long flight in time for this one as well. Though the police response is pretty ugly. A slap in the face to much progress and development in recent years in Russia. I am very disappointed, but not shocked. I've seen like that myself in 1990s, when I lived in Russia. During Yeltsin's "golden" era.
You wanna laugh Mag? They took a private jet of MVD forces. The whole thing was setup as they should have been passing a "training" in Vladivostok.
