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Mixing: the next step? (pg. 2)
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| Az |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
When I'm using two decks I don't touch EQs very much. I just don't find them completely necessary if you program your set properly. Also work on your levels as this is something I find all DJs can work on. You don't want your mix to get louder as you bring in another song or to get softer when you take song out of the mix. You need to keep a consistent level throughout. |
depends what you're going for |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Az
depends what you're going for |
Well if you want your levels all over to place and people to think you can't mix then yea just slam the next track in wait 30 seconds and crossfade. |
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| teufel-man |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Also work on your levels as this is something I find all DJs can work on. You don't want your mix to get louder as you bring in another song or to get softer when you take song out of the mix. You need to keep a consistent level throughout. |
Thats actually a great point. I find that to be one of the most difficult parts of mixing for me. What techniques do you guys use to control the levels? do you primarily use the gains or what?
It always s me up when i go from a minimal to a techno track or vice versa. Definitely something I will work on. |
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| discobiscuit |
| if you want a real challenge, start mixing hip hop and practicing turnabalism. mixing edm is easy i can see why you're getting bored (flame away) |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by discobiscuit
if you want a real challenge, start mixing hip hop and practicing turnabalism. mixing edm is easy i can see why you're getting bored (flame away) |
Or if you want a real challenge you can teach yourself how to play the violin. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
Thats actually a great point. I find that to be one of the most difficult parts of mixing for me. What techniques do you guys use to control the levels? do you primarily use the gains or what?
It always s me up when i go from a minimal to a techno track or vice versa. Definitely something I will work on. |
I preset the gain knobs so the channel peaks around 0 and then use the channel faders to control the overall sound level with some EQ cuts to make space for the incoming song. Use your ears and watch the master VU to make sure you aren't spiking the levels on the master channel. |
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| s3nate |
-Mix other forms of music
-Mix multiple genres in one set
-learn how to do cuts and stuff like that
-Harmonic Mixing (easy mode: use a program to identify the key, hard mode: key each track yourself, uber hard mode: listen to the track and know what key it is in)
-Mix with some buddies
-Mix drunk |
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| amp3 |
| record your sets, then listen to them. Puts it into a different perspective, I feel like I got a lot better (jury's still out on that however) after doing that. |
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| PutBoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
What techniques do you guys use to control the levels? do you primarily use the gains or what? |
I use the gains only for that. I know some people use the up-faders for that purpose, but I just think it's too easy to 'miss', if that makes sense. You're moving your up-faders throughout the mix anyways, and keeping tabs on where you want them for volume-purposes as well seems confusing.
What I do is I find the place in the tune that is the loudest, the main part. Then I keep it running and I just change the gain knob until it's at 0 dB. Normally, this is all you have to do. However, as tracks are mastered quite differently, and some just plain badly... You might have to change it on the fly. But I only use the gain knob.
And about harmonic mixing, you don't need musical background to do it. Acctually, harmonic mixing frees you from musical theory altogether. It's an automated process. Get the mixed in key program (it's not expensive), and start marking up your tunes. All you need to know is that a tune fits another tune if it's (and as long as you use key lock, or both tracks run at the exact same pitch):
a. the same key.
b. same letter, but one number above or one number below the other track
c. same number, different letter.
And that's it. Go from a 11A track into a 10A track, for example, and that's it, it's harmonic.
It's not rocket science, and it's not mozart.
You don't have to know any musical theory at all for this, since everything is being done for you via the Camelot system.
However, learning harmonic mixing and then not using it, ironically, will make you better at track selection.
And IpLaYWiTLiGhTs has the best suggestion: three deck mixing. Go for it. I'm just learning it myself, it's great ;P |
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| Darkarbiter |
| You can also move up/down 3 |
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| Adam420 |
| Get more decks and actually mix for a purpose (at a party/for a radio show/website). I'm sure evolution will come with real experience. |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
practice the pose
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this man ^ knows the score... :haha: |
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