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Scientology, Autism and the Death of Jett Travolta.My Take On It + The Cor Version (pg. 3)
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| DJ Damerchi |
| *Squeezing body real hard to produce In-Su-lin*:nervous: |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Everything is a dangerous cult these days. iPods, Scientology, Jimmy Dean Microwavable Breakfast Sandwiches, birth control methods - it's all just so delightfully cultish. |
You forgot Techno :o |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
stating that scientology is a dangerous cult that tells lies about brain medicine is pretty factual however. |
I don't deny that in the slightest. Scientology IMHO is the worst type of "religion" out there because not only does it misinform, but the misinformation is potentially harmful physically.
I guess my thinking is that there are many, many things that can kill a 16-year old boy that have absolutely nothing to do with the perverse beliefs of a Scientologist. Prematurely blaming Scientology for his death before we have a full explanation of what happened (which we know we will have) seems a bit naive and spiteful to me. |
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| Polyfrost |
| Where do scientologists keep to themselves?...I want to find and torture one... |
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| Aortik |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Scientology IMHO is the worst type of "religion" out there because not only does it misinform, but the misinformation is potentially harmful physically. |
Nevermind most other major religions which have little to no practical approval of pluralism, hamper social and scientific progress and unify people to support socially acceptable forms of ideological and physical annihilation. Yeah, celebrity misconceptions are far worse, you're right. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aortik
Nevermind most other major religions which have little to no practical approval of pluralism, hamper social and scientific progress and unify people to support socially acceptable forms of ideological and physical annihilation. Yeah, celebrity misconceptions are far worse, you're right. |
However, very few of the major religions show an outright rejection of medical science. (There are exceptions however, and I know that.) That was the point of what I was saying; Scientology does have an outright rejection in regards to certain medical practices that can be directly dangerous. Celebrity misconceptions didn't enter the picture as a perceived issue. The other "dangers" you listed are indirect at best. |
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| thunderdownundr |
| there's no doubt those scientologists have a few screws loose. they were probably treating his epilepsy with scriptures from l ron hubbard. |
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| thunderdownundr |
jesus christ, they are weirder than I thought. |
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| Aortik |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
However, very few of the major religions show an outright rejection of medical science. (There are exceptions however, and I know that.) That was the point of what I was saying; Scientology does have an outright rejection in regards to certain medical practices that can be directly dangerous. Celebrity misconceptions didn't enter the picture as a perceived issue. The other "dangers" you listed are indirect at best. |
Indirect? It's clear you didn't actually think this out. Good day. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I guess my thinking is that there are many, many things that can kill a 16-year old boy that have absolutely nothing to do with the perverse beliefs of a Scientologist. Prematurely blaming Scientology for his death before we have a full explanation of what happened (which we know we will have) seems a bit naive and spiteful to me. |
whilst i certainly agree, i would be curious to hear what kind of medical attention the boy received in the previous 16 years, and whether needless suffering occurred because of the unsubstantiated superstitions of a dangerous cult. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
whilst i certainly agree, i would be curious to hear what kind of medical attention the boy received in the previous 16 years, and whether needless suffering occurred because of the unsubstantiated superstitions of a dangerous cult. |
I agree. I just find it silly to try to guess as to what the boy may have had and how his parents may have mistreated him. I dislike Scientology as much as the next guy, but I fail to see the logic in using the dislike of a person to reach a conclusion with next to zero actual proof in order to further your disapproval. (I'm not speaking to you specifically, but in a general sense.)
Aortik - yes, I said "direct" and I meant it. "Direct" as in a belief or practice having a direct impact on a persons health by either directly causing harm or directly preventing the treatment of harm. If you can show much how any of your examples directly harm an individual by physical means and without intermediate steps, I'll stand corrected. |
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