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cryophonik
Anybody else here have this synth? I bought it about a week ago and I'm hooked. This is one of the best all-around synths (hardware or software) that I've ever owned. HCM synthesis is very cool and this synth is laid out very nicely and intuitively. It's a breeze to program and, most importantly, the sound is incredible.
DJ Robby Rox
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Anybody else here have this synth? I bought it about a week ago and I'm hooked. This is one of the best all-around synths (hardware or software) that I've ever owned. HCM synthesis is very cool and this synth is laid out very nicely and intuitively. It's a breeze to program and, most importantly, the sound is incredible.


I've been hearing a bit about this synth lately, will prob check it out after this thread.

How are the oscillators? Anything unique going on there with sound quality?
Stef
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Anybody else here have this synth? I bought it about a week ago and I'm hooked. This is one of the best all-around synths (hardware or software) that I've ever owned. HCM synthesis is very cool and this synth is laid out very nicely and intuitively. It's a breeze to program and, most importantly, the sound is incredible.


Could you show me some of your sounds with it? I just dont really trust the mp3 demos lol.
cryophonik
Well, the oscillators and the uniqueness of HCM (Harmonic Content Morphing) syntheses is really what gives this synth its character. It starts with hundreds of hi-quality oscillators/waveforms (no, it's not a rompler) and lets you combine the harmonic content in a multitude of ways and gives you a lot of control over how to modulate them, use one to modulate another, etc. This can give you everything from subtle chorus-type effects to FM, PWM, ring mod, etc.-type effects, to out-of-this-world effects. This synth makes astounding pads, basses, leads, etc., and makes some of the nicest supersaws and choir pads (many vocal/formant oscillators to choose from) I've ever made with ease.

It also has an excellent filter with dozens of filter types (HP, LP, BP, BR, Moog-type, fat, thin, formant, you name it), amazing effects (pretty much the same as those in Warmverb), and a ton of modulation capabilities.

I probably sound like an ad for the synth, huh? Anyway, check out the demo - it's a full-featured version that includes all of the thousand or so presets (which are surprisingly good btw), and it's crippled by a 10-minute/instance time limit and an occasional voice-over.
daveth
Speaking of Warmverb, I've been thinking of checking it out. Any good?
(guess I should just try the demo hey! :p )
cryophonik
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Originally posted by daveth
Speaking of Warmverb, I've been thinking of checking it out. Any good?
(guess I should just try the demo hey! :p )


Yeah, Warmverb is my go-to effects plug - definitely check out the demo. It's the first Tone2 product I ever purchased, which heavily influenced my decision to buy FilterBank3, my go-to filter. I love both of those so much that they prompted me to dive into Gladiator2. The funny thing is, when Gladiator1 was initially released, I gave the demo a quick try and dismissed it as just another subtractive synth without giving it much chance. Whoops! ;)
Fledz
I gave the demo a try and liked it quite a bit. Will probably grab it once I have some more funds.
Cubase 4, Omnisphere and brand new DJ gear are kind of stretching the budget :nervous:
Owsey2008
Damn, sounds real nice...Gonna give it a shot.
cybernetica
the precursor was very good, indeed a nice allround synth with a lot of possibilities in changing the timbre of your sound. Also the FX and filter section are some of the best I've encountered yet. I wonder how version 2 has been improved compared to the first.
justjabbin
Gladiator is ridiculous!! Warmverb is my favorite fx plugin...check them both!

cryophonik
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Originally posted by cybernetica
I wonder how version 2 has been improved compared to the first.


They only made a few changes: :p

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The HCM3 engine extends HCM synthesis with complex phase manipulation. It provides warmer sounds, noisy sounds, 'analogue' sounds and a bigger sonic range.
● At least 300 new presets; Improved and sorted 'old' factory presets
● New quality mode: 'Ultra' provides 2x oversampling for audio and modulation sources with psychoacoustical postprocessing
● New quality mode: 'Linear' provides highest precision rendering with linear phase for audiophiles and scientific applications
● 6657 additional waveforms OSC 1A-4D
● 25 additional waveforms for OSC 5
● OSC 5 can be played as additional subosc
● New and improved filters
● 6 new unision modes
● Separate pan for OSCs
● Improved modulation: More sources, more destinations, more routings, more slots in mod matrix, 2 Aux envelopes, more LFOs with more features, double precision rendering, shapers for envelopes
● 10 additional effects

Top section:

● 300 new sounds
● Improved factory patches
● New quality mode: 'Ultra' provides 2x oversampling for modulation sources
● New quality mode: 'Linear' provides highest precision rendering with linear phase for audiophiles
● Psychoacoustical postprocessing for warmer sound
● Improved performance
● Improved random function
● Maximum voice number has been increased to 256
● New knob: 'FX MIX' allows dry/wet mixing of effects
● Faster patch changes
● Reduced glitches on patch changes
● Postprocessing filter for rendering with linear phase: Smaller frequency falloff above 12 kHz
● Improved robustness
● Fixed typo in At(h)mos

OSC section - OSC 1A-4D:

The HCM3 synthesis engine extends HCM with complex phase manipulation and provides warmer, more 'analogue' sound.

● 6657 additional waveforms
● Improved sound: Low frequency OSCs are calculated with higher precision
● Improved performance: Faster preprocessing
● New buttons: 'random' for OSCs. Randomizes OSC1/2 or OSC3/4 settings.
● New buttons: 'copy' OSC
● New buttons: 'paste' OSC
● New buttons: 'resynthesis' (part of an expansion)
● New buttons: 'vocoder' (part of an expansion)
● New knob: 'phasemod value'. Sets the depth of phase monipulatuion
● New Modifier: 'phasemod'. It generates analogue, warm, noisy and supersaw sounds.

Additional modes for 'phasemod':
● 'Noise': Adds white noise to OSCs
● 'Noise high': Adds high frequency noise to OSC
● 'Noise granular': Adds grain noise to OSC
● 'Multi slow': Generates slow supersaw sound from OSC
● 'Multi fast': Generats fast supersaw sound from OSC
● 'Multi detuned': Generates detuned supersaw sound from OSCs
● 'Fuzzy slow': Adds slow fuzzy sound to OSC
● 'Fuzzy fast': Adds fast fuzzy sound to OSC
● 'Odd/even slow': Slow PWM-like spectral detuning for OSC
● 'Odd/even fast': Fast PWM-like spectral detuning for OSC
● 'Vibrato strong hilbert': Strong vibrato on low frequencies
● 'Vibrato cos norm': Classic vibrato on all frequencies
● 'Vibrato tri/saw': Triangular shaped vibrato on all frequencies
● 'Static smear': Softens sound

OSC section - OSC5:

● 25 additional waveforms
● OSC5 can be played as subosc
● New knob: 'SEMI' for semitone tuning
● New knob: 'START' sets starting offset of sample
● New button: 'RET' retrigger/not retrigger sample
● New button: 'LOOP' loop/not loop sample
● New knob: 'Load' loads a wav file to OSC5 (part of an expansion)

Filter section:

● New Filter: Moog Lowpass with 24 dB
● New knob: 'SHAPE' manipulates envelope shape
● Improved sound of LP 30 dB: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of LP 30 dB Fat: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of LP 12 dB: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of LP 20 dB x2: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of LP 20 dB x1.5: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of LP 40 dB elliptic: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of LP 30: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of HP 30 dB: Improved frequency response. No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of HP 12 dB: Improved frequency response. No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of BP 15 dB: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of BP 6 dB Fat: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of BP Para: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of EQ Low shelf: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of EQ High shelf: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of EQ Peek: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals 1: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals 2: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals A: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals E: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals I: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals O: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Vocals U: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of Phaser: No glitches on fast cutoff changes
● Improved sound of M-Shape: No glitches on fast cutoff changes

Sound section:

6 new unision modes:
● '4x mono oct': Stacks 2 mono voices in 2 octaves
● '4x stereo oct': Stacks 2 stereo voices in 2 octaves
● '4x mono stack': Stacks 2 mono voices in 3 octaves
● '4x stereo stack': Stacks 2 stereo voices in 3 octaves
● '4x mono stack2': Stacks 2 mono voices in 4 octaves
● '4x stereo stack2': Stacks 2 stereo voices in 4 octaves

Mixer section:

● New knob: 'PAN' for OSC1A-2D
● New knob: 'PAN' for OSC3A-4D
● New knob: 'PAN' for AM
● New knob: 'PAN' for OSC5A-5B

Volume section:

New knob: 'SHAPE' manipulates envelope shape for more punchy or softer sound

Effect section:

● Improved sound of Flanger
● New effect: Phaser
● New effect: Flanger 2
● New effect: Super strings (16x stereo Chorus)
● New effect: Pitch shifter
● New effect: 24 dB Lowpass for effect section
● New effect: 12 dB Bandpass for effect section
● New effect: 24 dB Highpass for effect section
● New effect: Talkbox vocal filter for effect section
● New effect: 'Reverb trance' is a reverb with detuned sound
● New effect: 'Reverb real' is a classic sounding reverb

New section - 'Feedback':

The new feedback delay effect applies to the effect section of FX1 and FX2. It is usefull for morphing echo sounds and filtered delay effects.
● New knob: 'GAIN' sets feedback amount
● New selector: 'FX FEEDBACK DELAY' defines delay amount
● New button: 'CLIP' clips feedback

LFO section:

● Additional LFO: LFO4
● New button: 'KEY' enables key follow for LFO frequency (usefull for FM sounds)
● New button: 'LFO 1/2' selector
● Improved Trancegate sound

New section - 'Aux envelopes'

Two additonal Aux enveopes can be routed in the mod matrix.
● New button: 'AUX ENV 1/2' selector
● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE ATTACK'
● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE DECAY'
● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE SUSTAIN'
● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE RELEASE'
● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE FADE'
● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE SHAPE'

Mod matrix:

The number of available slots in the mod matrix has been increased from 6 to 12.
● New button: 'MOD MATRIX ENV 1/2' selector
● New modulation source: 'LFO 4'
● New modulation source: 'AUX ENV 1'
● New modulation source: 'AUX ENV 2'
● New modulation source: 'flipflop' triggers to -1 or 1 on noteOn commands
● New modulation destination: 'feedback' modulates feedback delay gain
● New modulation destination: 'pan12' modulates OSC1/2 pan
● New modulation destination: 'pan34' modulates OSC3/4 pan
● New modulation destination: 'panAM' modulates AM pan
● New modulation destination: 'pan5' modulates OSC5 pan
● New modulation destination: 'semi' modulates OSC5 semitones
● New modulation destination: 'fine' modulates OSC5 finetuning
● New modulation destination: 'start' modulates OSC5 start offset
● New modulation destination: 'modAmou7' modulates amount of slot7 in the mod matrix
● New modulation destination: 'modAmou8' modulates amount of slot8 in the mod matrix
● New modulation destination: 'modAmou9' modulates amount of slot9 in the mod matrix
● New modulation destination: 'modAmou10' modulates amount of slot10 in the mod matrix
● New modulation destination: 'modAmou11' modulates amount of slot11 in the mod matrix
● New modulation destination: 'modAmou12' modulates amount of slot12 in the mod matrix

GUI:

● The interface is rendered in higher quality with ambient occulsion.
● Brighter displays for better text display.
● New colors.

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