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Deep House VSTs anyone?
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| ponsshin |
Does anybody know any VSTs that emulate that typical deep house warm pad?
I've tried using samples but the timestretching doesn't work too well imo.
Operator and other FM synths just sound too metallic to make that kind of sound.
btw, is there or is there not a sampler that uses pitching only instead of timestretching? I hate not being able to play high pitched samples because of that.
Thanks in advance. |
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| Zombie0729 |
| aren't deep house pads typically just rhodes? if not try a synth that has PWM waves. also a sample would help us |
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| jupiterone |
circle synth and any rhodes client will do you fine
there really isn't a deep house vst, i like to think deep house is more percussion and attitude/vibe than it is emulating a certain sound |
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| MOK |
| I'd think it's more about the chords getting used than any other element. Barring a supersaw and whatnot, if you use the right chords, it'll sound like solid deep house. |
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| Kismet7 |
| Deep House sounds...it starts with how you EQ your sounds, which means you can create them with many synths but a good start would be NI's Pro 53 which emulates the Prophet 5. NI FM7/FM8. Korg's Legacy Collection. |
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| Fledz |
I like that. What tracks are they? |
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| ponsshin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
I like that. What tracks are they? |
Ski Oakenfull - Illuminations (Milton Jackson Remix)
Cloud - Those Days (Jimpster's Deep Dub Mix)
Both are from Funk D'Void's SciFi HiFi04 mix CD |
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| Zombie0729 |
both tracks are awesome :) and yes, it's basically the chord being played with some kind of PWM/Pulse/Square wave.
filter adsr:
a -- 30%
d -- 50%
sus - 25%
release to taste
amp adsr:
a -- 20%
decay - 0
sustain -- 60%
release to taste
cutoff is pretty low... try playing a chord that blends c2/c3(with inversions where necessary) |
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| ponsshin |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
circle synth and any rhodes client will do you fine
there really isn't a deep house vst, i like to think deep house is more percussion and attitude/vibe than it is emulating a certain sound |
I think you're right but there are inevitably common sounds within almost all deep house tracks. But like you said, percussion and vibe make it all happen. Acoustic sounds and organic stuff are essential though.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Deep House sounds...it starts with how you EQ your sounds, which means you can create them with many synths but a good start would be NI's Pro 53 which emulates the Prophet 5. NI FM7/FM8. Korg's Legacy Collection. |
Ok but where do I start? LP, HP (guess not), BP, Notch? |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ponsshin
I think you're right but there are inevitably common sounds within almost all deep house tracks. But like you said, percussion and vibe make it all happen. Acoustic sounds and organic stuff are essential though.
Ok but where do I start? LP, HP (guess not), BP, Notch? |
Depends on the sound, to make a deep sound you want to low pass filter the sound so that some of the highs are cut off and the sound starts to feel submerged. The mids and lows are accentuated while creating a constrast with the hi freqs that slightly bleeds in the background, creating that feeling of space and deepness. But your first step should be finding the right sounds to work with. The VST's I listed will be good place to start.
As far as chords, you can work with almost all chords because its really more about how you design the individual sounds and how you work your bassline around your kick/snare more than anything.
This thread makes me want to start a brighter Deep House track, been working on a Deep track the past few days. A real dark room workout. Something i'd want to hear afterhours or very late into the night, head down wondering if there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I might post up a version on the production forum before finishing it up, getting it mastered, and sending it out to labels. |
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| Omega_Blue |
a good rhodes vst is lounge lizard, you can get a lot more sounds than your typical rhodes out of that synth
for deep house stabs try inverting minor and minor 7th chords, that's as far as my understanding goes though. i wish i was a jazz-trained pianist :( |
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