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The One Bit Of Advice You Could Give? (pg. 2)
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| Ry Thomas |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Spoken like somebody who's NOT addicted to eBay. :p |
indeed |
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| JOE-SCULLY |
| quote: | Originally posted by MOK
Was just a 'hard & fast,' if you know what I mean. Common sense overrides.
You totally lost me. |
i mean if i read what you wrote as your first post id turn the page quickly...basically there not much advice in there!! :p |
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| -FSP- |
| Be really picky with your sounds you choose. Most likely, when you hear your loop and you think one sound is "iffy" more often than not it doesn't belong there. |
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| zodiac9 |
| Learn to play an instrument, piano, guitar, anything. Learn to improvise on whatever instrument you choose. Join a band or just jam with other musicians, you will learn a lot. Learning an instrument, and being able to improvise on it, is the key to training your ear. You're trying to write music after all. All of the great composers play at least one, or several instruments. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by zodiac9
Learn to play an instrument, piano, guitar, anything. Learn to improvise on whatever instrument you choose. Join a band or just jam with other musicians, you will learn a lot. Learning an instrument, and being able to improvise on it, is the key to training your ear. You're trying to write music after all. All of the great composers play at least one, or several instruments. |
Absolutely. |
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| MOK |
| Damn skippy, good call. |
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| noicuc |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Anyone who tries to tell you that music production is more about technical aspect than it is about the musical aspect is a dead-wrong newbie and should be ignored. You can try to impress the other producers on forums with your technical abilities and knowledge until the cows come home, but solid hooks and melodies, strong progressions, funky bass lines, etc. is what sells tracks and gets people moving on the dancefloor (i.e., makes you successful). But, it's also the hardest part, so focus your energy there. Remember, you can always pay one of your fellow forumites $15/hr to do the easy technical part and they'll be happy to do it while you're laughing your way to the bank. |
The best one. |
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| Kismet7 |
If a Magazine asked me for advice for newly starting producers...
Start producing with ty equipment. And continue to produce with ty equipment for as long as you can.
I think the best thing to have happenned to me as a producer is that I produced on rather ty equipment for a long time. computer speakers (which I still use for second reference mixing), and a ty PC SBPCI soundcard for bouncing to audio, and no Analog outboard. So it FORCED me to make music that is musically decent to make up for it sounding technically terrible. Im still learning and always trying to improve my sound, but getting the fundamentals down on equipment has paid off big time.
Think of it as boot camp, and boot camp only makes you stronger. A DAW that will let you only run like 5-8 tracks at a time that forces you to freeze some tracks so you can hear the other tracks play at the same time without overloading your CPU. This frugal process will improve your sound creation fundamentals. Avoid having this supercomputer that lets you carelessly throw in 20 tracks and all you do is just keep adding tracks without refining the important parts of a piece. A single great loop can be powerful, so if you have to spend hours to get that loop perfect then your piece will only be better because of it.
In essence force yourself to make great music that is musically sound first, with ty equipment. Great sound is Musical Talent + Technical Skill + Vision. When your musical backbone is strong on ty equipment your sound will go the next level as you improve on technique (getting equipment to sound good) and once you have the musical side down and the technique down, this is when you add great equipment to the mix.
An example, I learned to use chords and layering because the ty vst synths I used wouldn't give me a great outcome by just using 1 note. With a nice analog synth you can get away with 1 note or no layering because the sound is nice arleady. If you take your chord and layering technique that you had to learn on the equipment to the analog world, your sound will be even more amazing.
Another example I would give you is when you hear a lot of music that is released on Beatport, the music sounds technically amazing and probably can rock out a club, because they obviously used great equipment to work on it. But their music might be souless because they have fallen back on a sound that is technically great instead of falling back on a sound that is musically great and technically great. You should avoid that and force yourself to make music that is enjoyable even on equipment, this is when the most soulful music comes out, the technical stuff will come later.
So dont run out there buying all this analog and all these synths when your better off learning the basics mixing ITB on an average DAW. IMO you might end up selling everything because you cant get anything to sound good musically or technically if you jump in head first with hardware, not to mention you wont have a great framework to work from. So work on equipment for as long as you can, and then move your way up to better equipment after you've improved musically and technically. :D |
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| MOK |
:wtf:
It only took me one sentence when I posted that tip... >< |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MOK
:wtf:
It only took me one sentence when I posted that tip... >< |
You left out the WHY :thepirate |
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| kitphillips |
Well, I disagree with a lot of what's been said here. From my own experience, the writing is the easiest part, probably because I started off making acoustic music, so came at it as a musician rather than as an engineer.
So I find it very easy to write, but very hard to engineer good tracks. So I disagree with cryophonic that writing is the hardest part.
I also disagree with kismet that producing on sub par equipment is good. Using few synths or restricting yourself to a small number of channels is fine, but I think its really important to hear what your actually doing, so its important to have good monitors and soundcards etc. I don't have that yet, but I know that having a pair of AKG headphones has done great things for my productions. |
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