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| English Rachel |
| can someone provide me with a coles' notes-esque version of the proposed budget? I can't be arsed to fathom the Globe's section... |
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| Cuzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by English Rachel
can someone provide me with a coles' notes-esque version of the proposed budget? I can't be arsed to fathom the Globe's section... |
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| Skipper |
| The budget is 350 pages long...the globe IS the coles notes! |
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| Orko |
If i ran a business, like these fools are running governments, I'd be fired.
It seems all the countries are taking the same approach, and following one another. 'Hey look, they are going into massive debt, in order to prop up an economy, if we don't do it, we will fall behind!'. WTF?
If Canada did not start this mess, with the same bad habits, why would be following those countries by borrowing to finance those bad habits? We do not have the same problems, so why are we offering the same solution?
Yes, we will suffer due to lower demand for our goods, services, and commodities. But, because that is a real problem, with a very real solution (which does not include deficit spending), we should let it sort itself out. Other countries will eventually rebound, and we will be fine. I think for 'natural' problems, we need a more natural solution of waiting it out.
Our budget and planning is being driven by emotion, rather than logic. It is idiotic articles, and thinking like this (following article) that lead to so many 'bailouts'.
| quote: | Laid-off GM worker still waiting for help
John MacDonald, 29, worked for General Motors in Oshawa for 11 years before being laid off in December.
He’s single, rents a house in Oshawa and is currently eligible for $337 a week through employment insurance; at GM he was making more than $1,000 a week, after taxes.
budget hopes: MacDonald hoped for retraining funding that would let him take a year-long engineering program for nuclear operations.
He said he has been told he is not eligible because he only qualifies for 36 weeks of EI and the program is longer than that. Retraining funding must be substantial enough “that I could still have some kind of income to pay my bills and still put some food on the table.”
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http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/local/article/173158 |
Read again, the fool made $52K last year, AFTER tax, and is waiting for a hand out. He is single, living in Oshawa by himself, and thinks he is entitled to re-training money. Should he not have saved some of that crazy cash for a rainy day? He is still getting over $1200 a month in EI, which is fair, because he paid into the fund. But to make that much money annually and expect a hand out is outrageous. Worse still, is that the paper picked this story and printed it, in the metro, which has the largest circulation out of the free papers in Toronto.
Having gone straight from high school to work, and earning this kind of money is amazing. It just shows you how many things are wrong with the auto sector, and the type of people that work there. Go get OSAP, go to college, and get a in education, and maybe then you will know how to save, and stop sobbing to the rest of the world.
People need to stop relying on the government for handouts, and get out there to make a better life for them selves. We are breeding generations of beggars, whiners, and freeloaders. |
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| malek |
This time around Ontario gets the cherry on top, no one can acuse Quebec of getting any favours, quite the contrary.
2-3 billion for the auto sector alone, plus a billion in economic stimulus for the richest region in Canada, southern ontario... yes that smells like election hand outs.
In the meanwhile, the timber industry gets 170 million from coast to coast:nervous: |
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| English Rachel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
The budget is 350 pages long...the globe IS the coles notes! |
Lol I know but I can't be arsed with that!
I just want to know what's applicable to me :) |
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| Pett |
| about time Ontario gets some money considering how much we've given away in the good times. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pett
about time Ontario gets some money considering how much we've given away in the good times. |
dude, that's not a good sign man
it means ontario's productivity has gone down the ters |
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| Pett |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
dude, that's not a good sign man
it means ontario's productivity has gone down the ters |
didn't say it was, but when all we do in southern ontario is manufacturing what do you expect? |
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| dEsidEL |
my question is: will this budget help or hurt Toronto?
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Toronto's own Michael Ignatieff will remain the leader of the opposition as he plans to have his Liberal party support the budget announced yesterday - but with a caveat. Ignatieff intends to introduce an amendment requiring periodic economic status updates to parliament. The requirement appears to be the price Conservatives must pay to remain in power.
The NDP and Bloc have been clear that they would not support this budget and it's been hard to tell how seriously the Liberals were considering defeating the budget, although as of last night it was reported that Ignatieff was not expected to simply support the budget as presented.
With so much political wrangling - a dirty dance not likely to stop - what does all this mean for Toronto?
Depending on who I listen to, I hear everything from Toronto being well taken care of to us getting left in the dirt. Jack Layton is taking to the airwaves to explain why he has no confidence in the Harper government - and that they aren't going to make good on their budgetary promises.
Of course when interviewed this morning, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty went on at length about how well he knows Toronto and how badly Union Station needs upgrading and that Toronto will see more than enough federal money to take on capital projects. He practically accused our municipal government of ignoring critical needs, suggesting that the federal government was now stepping in to take care of us.
David Miller has deep concerns about whether he'll be able to advance his Transit City project, and while he won't outright blast the federal government (after all, he wants their money!), it's obvious he's not happy, either.
So, rightly or wrongly, it was left to Toronto's own Michael Ignatieff to find some sort of way forward, and it appears he's content to let the government stand - at least for now - while trying to exert the influence of the potential coalition.
Right, so how does this help Toronto? I guess we'll find out just how well our MPs can get along, but they're certainly throwing enough money at the problems something should improve.
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source:
http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/01/...osition_leader/
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| English Rachel |
Thank you Chris :)
Increasing the basic personal amount that all Canadians
can earn without paying federal income tax.
Raising the upper limit of the two lowest personal income
tax brackets by 7.5 per cent so that Canadians can earn
more at lower tax rates.
The temporary Home Renovation Tax Credit of up
to $1,350 for eligible home renovations and alterations.
The 3 applicable points to me :) |
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