Originally posted by enydo
but when there are that many people you can really FEEL THE NRG.
even with minimal as the vids proof. Even a not really minimal fan as I would enjoy this for sure.
Renzo
Loco Dice is great.
trancedanne
if i would have been there it would be my worst night out EVER
elFreak
enydo
:stongue:
Trance-MB
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Originally posted by trancedanne
if i would have been there it would be my worst night out EVER
Night? What about the day?
Well enough to see if you don't like the music.....
From Berlin:
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by nefardec
ugh :wtf:
i dont see how that could be a good time
dance music is not concert music
I don't think it has to be this black and white, although I must say I would definitely have more fun seeing him at a more intimate venue than this.
nefardec
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Originally posted by wotyzoid
I don't think it has to be this black and white, although I must say I would definitely have more fun seeing him at a more intimate venue than this.
well, it's not. putting the deejay on a stage as a focal point takes away from the ambience of the party and wrongly places the deejay in the place of a musical performer. deejays aren't musicians, they are something wholly other. loco dice doesn't even make his own music for god's sake.
needs to be played in a warehouse or a factory or a bunker, etc
clubs are wack too.
nightclubs developed as a way of controlling the activities that go on within them. before nightclubs were warehouse parties, raves, etc. i mean there were always nightclubs but it was understood that these were leisure places where you could drop money on expensive drinks, smoke with clients, go on a romantic date, etc.
underground dance music really belongs in lofts and warehouses, etc
the love parade really only makes sense when it is a sort of mobile invasion running through the city, bubbling up from the cultural underworld. all it is now is an excuse to drink and perform lewd acts with thousands of drunk and lewd people
i've been to parades, concerts, clubs, lofts, bars, factories, warehouses, convention centers, basements, attics, courtyards, 600 year old palazzi, gardens, etc where underground dance music is being played, and i have to say, in a concert setting it's pointless and difficult to have fun, again because there is no environment. the venue should provide a framework for freedom. when you have a soundstage with an elevated dj in front of a jumbotron blaring his name, with a limited set time and frontally placed speakers, there's no point IMO.
now, if we're talking live PA that's one thing, where the virtuosity and visual spectacle are the primary focus.
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by nefardec
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now, if we're talking live PA that's one thing, where the virtuosity and visual spectacle are the primary focus.
Exactly what I meant. Yes DJing in a concert setting is rather silly, but saying dance music is no music for concert is a bit too radical as well.
By the way, Adam, I think you should share with us videos or picture of times of future times where you have or will experience this underground culture you often speak so fondly about. It's kind of falls short of the imagination of people as oblivious to it as I am. :)
Domesticated
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Originally posted by nefardec
well, it's not. putting the deejay on a stage as a focal point takes away from the ambience of the party and wrongly places the deejay in the place of a musical performer. deejays aren't musicians, they are something wholly other. loco dice doesn't even make his own music for god's sake.
needs to be played in a warehouse or a factory or a bunker, etc
clubs are wack too.
nightclubs developed as a way of controlling the activities that go on within them. before nightclubs were warehouse parties, raves, etc. i mean there were always nightclubs but it was understood that these were leisure places where you could drop money on expensive drinks, smoke with clients, go on a romantic date, etc.
underground dance music really belongs in lofts and warehouses, etc
the love parade really only makes sense when it is a sort of mobile invasion running through the city, bubbling up from the cultural underworld. all it is now is an excuse to drink and perform lewd acts with thousands of drunk and lewd people
i've been to parades, concerts, clubs, lofts, bars, factories, warehouses, convention centers, basements, attics, courtyards, 600 year old palazzi, gardens, etc where underground dance music is being played, and i have to say, in a concert setting it's pointless and difficult to have fun, again because there is no environment. the venue should provide a framework for freedom. when you have a soundstage with an elevated dj in front of a jumbotron blaring his name, with a limited set time and frontally placed speakers, there's no point IMO.
now, if we're talking live PA that's one thing, where the virtuosity and visual spectacle are the primary focus.
I mostly agree with you, both generally and in this particular instance, but sometimes, you're a real wanker. This is one of those times.
nefardec
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Originally posted by wotyzoid
Exactly what I meant. Yes DJing in a concert setting is rather silly, but saying dance music is no music for concert is a bit too radical as well.
By the way, Adam, I think you should share with us videos or picture of times of future times where you have or will experience this underground culture you often speak so fondly about. It's kind of falls short of the imagination of people as oblivious to it as I am. :)
no one takes photos lol. it's bad etiquette
however i do have a few that my girlfriend took, and i can pull some from other sources
ps. i don't mean to be a wanker. realize i tend to be sharp with the tongue/finger. it's mostly because i care a lot. people who have met me here know i am a lot more easygoing in person.
etc
enydo
Those really do look like some wicked parties.
I mostly agree with you, those huge stadium style festivals just feel so weird, I went to Ultra (yeah. I know.) once and I never really want to do the festival thing again after that.
