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Emissions Test (pg. 3)
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| PurpleHaze |
| I have a catless exhaust and pass emissions. Figure that one out :wtf: |
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| chico |
| quote: | Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers
You own a horse and can't find $600 to help us all breath a little bit better? |
my point exactly, it really just seems like a cop-out to not wanting to pay the additional few hundred dollars to get it done legit. i feel sorrier for the injured horse who's not only in pain but has an owner resenting him/her for having to pay for treatment. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Brilliant. You do know that an e-test has nothing whatsoever to do with CO2, right?
Emissions testing is intended to prevent toxic or hazardous emissions. That includes:
- Hydrocarbons (HC, - incomplete combustion products)
- Nitrogen Oxides (NOx)
- Carbon Monoxide (CO - that's the one that will kill you if you leave your car running in the garage for 3 hours).
Drive Clean doesn't even regulate CO2 emissions. But I'm sure you already knew that, and were just making a joke, right?
Technically, since the main component in emissions control is the catalytic converter which converts a lot of those other bad things into harmless CO2, passing an emissions test would actually be increasing one's "carbon footprint." |
So when are you going to get on Jeopardy?
| quote: | Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers
You own a horse and can't find $600 to help us all breath a little bit better? |
I know plenty of people who have dogs more expensive than a horse, they're priced differently like any other pets.
Unless you have a barn cat or got a cat or dog free, people consider their pets as aprt of the family and wouldn't flinch at an expensive vet bill if their 'familiy member' is at risk. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
In this case, when someone says I want to drive a more environmentally friendly car to reduce their carbon footprint, no one gives a F_ck whether or not a car actually emits carbon; we all know what she is trying to say. Plus, 'carbon footprint' is one of those buzzwords now which (AFAIK) just refers to being more environmentally friendly in general (I bet Diginut will jump on my for this) and the word 'carbon' is just being taken too literally by some of you! |
Virtually every substance we interact with on a daily basis contains carbon. Part of the e-test is for carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons. If I wanted to be literal I would probably talk about how ridiculous the term "carbon footprint" is for that reason alone - but that's pointless, I've just accepted that it means "carbon dioxide" because that's what it really means.
But the issue here is, carbon dioxide is the end product of "perfect" octane combustion. It replaces all those other nasty things that cars used to belch out. It is the "clean" in "Drive Clean".
The whole point of my reply, which I think you must have missed, was that E-testing is not about CO2 specifically and not about being "environmentally friendly" in general either. It's placing restrictions on emissions that are harmful to humans, not harmful to the environment. I cannot emphasize that distinction enough. That is what makes the tests so important and it is the reason why they are the law.
It's just wrong to talk about e-tests as having anything to do with environmentalism; we've had them since long before the trendy global warming/carbon neutral fad was even a twinkle in Al Gore's eye.
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
So when are you going to get on Jeopardy? |
Alex told me that there are no afros allowed on his show. :(
| quote: | Originally posted by PurpleHaze
I have a catless exhaust and pass emissions. Figure that one out :wtf: |
If you have an older car, the rules are more lenient. Basically it just has to conform to whatever standards were in place when the car was made.
The tests exist more to force automakers to build cleaner-running cars. The MoE doesn't want to screw car owners.
(If it's a new car with a catless exhaust then that's pretty weird by itself) |
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| Pett |
| i just proper lol'd at the thought of digi on jeapordy, so good |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
Seriously man.... why do you always feel the need to do this? |
Simple......
He's a twaaaaaaat..... |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pett
i just proper lol'd at the thought of digi on jeapordy, so good |
srsly, I so can imagine it! |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Simple......
He's a twaaaaaaat..... |
You must be excited - you're writing double ellipses this time. Isn't your ring finger getting sore? |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
Seriously man.... why do you always feel the need to do this? |
To pass on (correct) information?
I find Aaron insightful myself, and am almost always happy to read his posts. He very effectively (and blatantly, yes) corrects a great deal of most ppl's misconceptions. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
we've had them since long before the trendy global warming/carbon neutral fad was even a twinkle in Al Gore's eye. |
lol |
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| lexxwolfen |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
+1! I was always under the impression that horses cost more than cars for the most part... especially with ongoing costs to 'maintain' the horse |
He is free leased, so owner pays the board/basic care, I do the rest (training, showing, and occasional vet bills) while getting unlimited use of the horse(and a few others) and facility. And the cost to own a horse varies greatly on where you keep it... Stouffville averages around $700/month for board alone while areas like Schomberg are around $200/month. |
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| lexxwolfen |
| quote: | Originally posted by chico
my point exactly, it really just seems like a cop-out to not wanting to pay the additional few hundred dollars to get it done legit. i feel sorrier for the injured horse who's not only in pain but has an owner resenting him/her for having to pay for treatment. |
Yes, resenting by going up daily to make sure he's comfortable and the treatment is working. Resenting by spoiling him rotten. He has it better than most people I know. And he isn't MINE, he is free-leased by me which is explained in another post. |
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