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| winston |
i would suggest buying property now that prices have gone down. rent property, buy more property, rent property...
start putting your money elsewhere, perhaps a swiss bank like my parents did. we've never had our money in u.s or u.k banks |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancealot
Which is better.
1. 401k
2. Rotha IRA
3. Stock Market
4. Mutual Funds
5. Bonds
Where I am getting at is let's say I just do not do any one of these and just throw my hard earned extra cash into my savings account until I am 65. Will I be better off? |
80% of mutual funds fail to beat the market average. Just remember that. |
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| winston |
the problem with property is that it is an unstable business to be in at the moment. everyone is trying their luck in real state these days, that bubble is not a good bubble to be in.
the problem with 401k is that it's diminishing year after year and it's very unlikely that you will see some substantial benefits when you retire.
what about japan/china is there any money to be made there? |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
I love those random $8 "service charges" on my wachovia accounts just because i ing talked to someone on the phone. pisses me off. i was on the phone yesterday trying to use the automated system and it transferred me to a rep because their systems were down and i had to tell her to waive that service fee since i had originally intended to use the automated service and she was like, "oh ok yea i'll waive that". in bitch wasn't going to even do it, i had to tell her.
@ OP: i would go with 401k if you plan on staying with your company for ever and if they match a percentage. seems to be the safer of the group with the way is these days. the only good investment choice right now (at least in my opinion) is real estate if you have buying power (cash). |
Go move your money into Wells Fargo (yes, I am aware that Wachovia was just outright purchased by them), WaMu, or Citi and you won't have this bull. |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
80% of mutual funds fail to beat the market average. Just remember that. |
good point, you are much better off in a no-load index fund. even if your managed fund happens to beat the market average you can still end up with less of a return than a index fund after you pay the expenses |
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| r5a |
son, let me hit you up with an expression.
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get that money.
do whatever you have to hustle. learn to scam bitches. go read the art of deception. internet marketing is big $$.
just from simple blasting emails and getting retards to click on .
right now, simple exploit.
get a landing page, in blogspot whatever, do it up with the rhianna drama (load it up with some bs, pictures, find that tmz) get some affilate programs, click bank, and just spam your link to scrubs. you'll make money off adsense, and maybe your promos if your lucky and market it right.
its all exploitation, the Rhianna is making people bank right now. |
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| Trancealot |
| Those 5 things I listed have no way of knowing when I am 65 I will be a a millionare or poor. To me it is gambling but at a slower pace of 65 years! Why should I give my $$ to people who make more than me and have a chance of losing it?? |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancealot
Those 5 things I listed have no way of knowing when I am 65 I will be a a millionare or poor. To me it is gambling but at a slower pace of 65 years! Why should I give my $$ to people who make more than me and have a chance of losing it?? |
If you take $10,000 and hide it in your closet today in 40 years you will have $10,000. Assuming a conservative 2.5% rate of inflation that $10,000 would only be worth $3,632 in today's dollars. By holding onto your money and doing nothing you have lost $6,368 over the 40 years.
Put that money in a savings account earning less than 2.5% and you won't keep up with inflation so you lose money there too.
The average rate of return on the S&P 500 from 1871 to 2005 has been 9.4%. If you put your $10,000 in an S&P 500 index fund today using that historical rate of return in 40 years you would have $363,657. Converting that back to todays dollars using the same 2.5% inflation rate you would have $132,092, a gain of $122,092.
So you either lose over $6,000 or you can gain over $120,000 - this is why you should give your $$ to people
So you can either hold onto your money and |
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| Scottaculous |
I believe the answer is all of the above, aka diversifying.
To maximize my investments, my financial planner had me put money in three tax categories. The first is your basic stocks & mutual funds, which are regular taxable investments. Then put money in tax-deffered accounts like regular IRA and 401K. Finally, the last strategy is to limit the tax you owe by making investments that become tax-free, such as Roth IRA and VUL (variable life insurance).
This triangle of tax strategies future proofs you against future tax laws and also lowers your tax bracket (because your investments are going to some of these accounts before tax) for current taxing. |
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| Alex |
| Invest all your money into Krypton's first business. |
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| Scottaculous |
Also you should have money in savings for emergencies and sudden loss of income. I try to put 4 to 6 months of mortgage payments in my savings for this.
IMO, you should also have short-term and long-term disability insurance to cover your ass. For example, I have a mortgage and my income is the sole supporter of that mortgage. If I'm that unlucky 1 in 4 people who has a disability that prevents me from working and getting income, without this insurance my mortgage would be in trouble. With the insurance, it will at least pay for my mortgage until I can get income again.
There's also what % of diversification you should have in each investment, but that's a long write up. :p |
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