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| LfmC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Not bad ;)
I`ll let others be the judge about what sounds better though. |
Virus - 1 vote
To keep things fair we should hear z3ta and sylenth too. Those are the closest VST competition atm. |
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| echosystm |
| the virus sounds better out of those two |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
I tried with the Korg Polysix VST. I found that it sucks at sounding like a Virus, but it sounds pretty nice in its own right (or at least I think it does):
http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/polysix1.mp3
Dry, followed by wet; unison at 4 throughout. I put a bit of reverb in the second part since Ableton's delay doesn't have a diffusion control. Also I gradually increased the decay and release a bit to give it more of a "Deadmau5y" feel.
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| hasbone |
Camelaudio Alchemy
1 Osc, 4 voice unison, full detune, no effects
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| ^ That's a bit much detuning for a Deadmau5 imitation. :D |
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| MOK |
Jeez, ya just HAD to use a dang deadmau5 riff?
Theres a little flaw that yet remains in this test though. The volume should be the same. It is true that people tend to like music more when it's louder, so both examples oughta have the same rough perceived volume.
It also goes that compression ought to be avoided.
Delay definitely muddies the comparison too. If a significant part of 'the virus sound' is derived from the delay, and not the sythesis itself.. Well.... There ya go.
Then there's the bias aspect of it all... We could only be sure with a blind comparison. |
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| asdfg |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
the virus sounds better out of those two |
THOR currently doesn't have a global unison feature, I'm guessing Bren is using the multiosc (8 detuned waveforms) so it's not a fair comparison. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by MOK
Then there's the bias aspect of it all... We could only be sure with a blind comparison. |
Good point. Although I think that if the point is just to see if softsynths can sound "like a Virus," then the way we're doing it now -- Virus riff followed by attempts at imitation -- is fine. |
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| MOK |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Good point. Although I think that if the point is just to see if softsynths can sound "like a Virus," then the way we're doing it now -- Virus riff followed by attempts at imitation -- is fine. |
Yeah. But thats definitely not whats going on here. This is a clashing between good and evil, wrong and right, order and chaos, yin and yang, peanut butter and jelly. This is the point where analog and digital meet in an explosive collision of fate. Ya know, like those exploding football helmets.
The point I'm seeing here is to try and 'prove' analog sounds, specifically, BETTER than a softsynth. Nothing less. |
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| kitphillips |
Bren, close but no medal IMO, it doesn't sound that close to the original. Its like its got an envelope on it, too much unison and the saw is a bit too smooth. Its also less honky than the virus.
A couple of notes;
1/ the delay is better left off. All synths have delays, assuming its just a digital delay it should't really colour the sound. They should all sound the same. I could get a lot closer to the sound when you turned the delay off, it was confusing me a fair bit.
2/ it would have been a lot better if you had left the filter envelope in that midi file (not sure if thats actually possible..?) as it was I was guessing a bit. I've got the raw sound pretty similar though.
I'm going to tweak mine a touch more and post in the morning. It doesn't sound identical, but I don't think worse... |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| The filter envelope is just full decay and sustain with basically no release. You can tell if you import it into a wave editor. |
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