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Obama killing the economy and stock market? Huh? (pg. 4)
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| delobbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
:wtf:
You guys sound like Mark Halperin - "President Obama, aren't you being distracted by the real issues by taking five minutes to sign a monumental stem cell bill?" |
how's that Kool-aid tasting these days? |
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| delobbo |
this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about
http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/A...e-41012852.html
| quote: | Amateur hour at the White House
It was embarrassing enough that President Barack Obama insulted British Prime Minister Gordon Brown last week by handing him 25 movie videos as the Chief Executive’s diplomatic gift to the visiting representative of America’s most important ally. Compared to Brown’s gifts, which included a pen holder made of wood from a British warship that helped stamp out the slave trade, Obama’s gift, in the words of The Telegraph (UK), “looked like the kind of thing the White House might hand out to the visiting head of a minor African state.” Even worse is the context in which this huge diplomatic gaffe took place – a six-week succession of miscues, oversights, miscalculations and outright errors that suggest things are gone seriously awry in the White House.
* Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tells a European Union gathering that the American democracy “has been around a lot longer than European democracy.” This no doubt particularly surprised the Dutch, whose republic commenced years before the U.S. won its independence. Somebody should tell Clinton about Athens, too.
* White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orzag say Obama will sign the $410 billion omnibus spending bill because it is “last year’s business,” even though the bill requires the president’s signature now to become law. This despite promising before the election a “line-by-line” battle against waste. Obama has or soon will sign bills containing more than 17,000 earmarks.
* “Catastrophe” would result from delays in passing the $787 billion economic stimulus bill, according to Obama, who then took a four-day shopping weekend with his family in Chicago before signing the “emergency” legislation.
* Obama’s first Commerce Secretary nominee is forced to withdraw, as are his first choice for HHS Secretary and several of his picks for top White House policy positions, due to assorted tax and other ethical problems that should have been caught during the transition process.
* Attorney General Eric Holder calls Americans “a nation of cowards” for allegedly not talking enough about race issues. Even the President is forced to disavow publicly Holder's assertion.
* Treasurer Secretary Timothy Geithner is touted as the only man who can fix the banking system, but, weeks after his controversial nomination is confirmed, crucial details of his plan remain a mystery, along with who will fill numerous senior positions within his department.
The president remains personally popular, but nothing so erodes public confidence as the perception of ineptitude. Policy differences are one thing, but Americans won’t accept incompetence in the Oval Office. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by delobbo
how's that Kool-aid tasting these days? |
Whatever are you talking about? I thought you were mad that the President wasn't working on campaign pledges - should he put the rest of them on the back burner until the market, which wants something altogether different from Washington than what the country needs, comes around? |
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| delobbo |
| it's clear to me that discussing this with you is not going to get us anywhere. and quite frankly, i have better things to do than to waste my time in here. :clown: |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by delobbo
it's clear to me that discussing this with you is not going to get us anywhere. and quite frankly, i have better things to do than to waste my time in here. :clown: |
Lebez asked a very legitimate question to you. Why is it when people ask you questions you seemingly say the same thing to them?
And forgive my skepticism for a moment, but quoting an op-ed from the Conservative Washington Examiner? I'm not wanting to attack the source here rather than the argument, but I tend to wonder if you really are the Obama supporter that you say you are.
Regardless, I'm crammed at work, so I'll get to the other posts when I get a chance. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| It's been interesting to see the sudden "relevance" that the Examiner has found since the election... nobody would touch it with a ten foot pole before. It's amusing though - everybody knows that the Washington Times is a rag, but when all of its reporters leave to go to the Examiner, somehow their reporting is better? |
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| delobbo |
| is the information in the examiner link false? |
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| delobbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Lebez asked a very legitimate question to you. Why is it when people ask you questions you seemingly say the same thing to them?
And forgive my skepticism for a moment, but quoting an op-ed from the Conservative Washington Examiner? I'm not wanting to attack the source here rather than the argument, but I tend to wonder if you really are the Obama supporter that you say you are.
Regardless, I'm crammed at work, so I'll get to the other posts when I get a chance. |
i say it because i seriously dont have the time or patience to go and research this stuff to show you. its on the news, try tuning in. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| I don't get it. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I don't get it. |
It's only funny if you don't know what socialism is. |
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| jerZ07002 |
I fear obama is taking us down a terrible path, even though not as bad as bush. While I agree there is a need for some sort of stimulus, the administration has it all wrong. The plan is too heavy on temporary tax relief and current economic stimulus without the necessary future growth prospects (i.e., not enough spending on future growth projects). His plan is full of incentives that don't promote the right kind of behaviors. Those who work hard are not only not being rewarded, but are also being slightly punished. I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes, but I don't want it lining the pockets of poor people. I would rather have it building schools, or funding the education of the children of the poor. While helpful to the recipient, a direct check is unproductive for society.
With all that said, the future inflationary pressure is going to kill those who obama is trying to help most (the poor). The poor are the class of people who are hurt the most by inflation because their wages are least likely to keep pace with inflation. My wages (scratch that - my salary) should keep pace, so I'll likely benefit from inflation (reducing the real dollar cost of loans, and considering i don't have substantial savings at this early point in my life). It's too bad people are so short-sighted. |
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