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Getting a friend into EDM (pg. 5)
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
It's got nothing to do with more "refined" or "mature" taste, it's just that "proper" electronic music is extremely intimidating for newcomers. A gentle start ensures they won't be scared off by what they initially perceive as hard, fast and monotonous.
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The fact that you just used the term "proper electronic music" in this context just further underlines my point. You really should quit putting electronic music on such a high pedestal that you consider it necessary for people to have a "gateway" before they "get it". |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
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People new to electronic music don't like techno or ambient |
not necessarily, more like close-minded people
i dont use training wheels. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
That's actually beside the point though. Bob Sinclar is played on daytime radio here. He's featured on your average supermarket Ministry of Sound compilation. You don't need to recommend Bob Sinclar. The most clueless person in the world can find Bob Sinclar. A girl asked me what music I liked once, and when I replied "dance music" she played a Bob Sinclar track on her phone. "Stuff like this?"
It's not really about Bob Sinclar being poisonous, although that's why I singled him out in particular, but rather how massively visible he is. Likewise Daft Punk. Everyone knows Daft Punk. You don't need to recommend Daft Punk, because everyone who has any interest in dance music will check out DP in their own time. I actually think it's condescending to think people would be so clueless that they need guiding onto gateway music like Sinclar or DP. If they're asking, they want taking past gateway music. |
You're forgetting that the poster is from America. In the UK and Australia you hear the kind of stuff I recommended on the radio, but not so much in America.
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
The fact that you just used the term "proper electronic music" in this context just further underlines my point. You really should quit putting electronic music on such a high pedestal that you consider it necessary for people to have a "gateway" before they "get it". |
I used the term "proper electronic music" in quotation marks because it was being said slightly ironically. I still see Bob Sinclar as proper music, but a few other people obviously don't. I really hate Love Generation, but I like a lot of his other stuff. |
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| elFreak |
| america =/= canada;) |
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| daphunky1 |
Being from Canada you will never hear even the most commercial house tunes that are big in Europe. Most are scared of anything with a 4/4 and when they hear anything edm-ish hafta do some sort of "pretend I'm raving action and say something like, I'm feeling the music" in a ridiculous and condesending way.
My roommates used to think it was hilarious to flash the lights on and off when I played tunes.
Anyways as such, the amount of exposure to certain music someone already has influences the topic a bit.... |
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| Stasis |
I would show her the tracks that you're literally into at this very moment.
I know intuitively it might seem like you need to water things down--start off with cheesy house or trance, since that seems to be the most common way each of us got into dance music, I don't think there's anything in reality preventing someone from getting into dance music by hearing something more underground or "advanced" (however loaded that term might be).
In reality, I think the individual tracks/artists are almost irrelevant--what matters the most in my opinion is the context that you introduce someone to dance music. Playing tracks off your computer, for example, probably isn't going to win over anybody, no matter what you're playing. But if you bring someone to a club or show, where she can see a whole crowd getting into it, experience the volume, the lights, a couple of drinks, etc...then I think even pretty underground music can feel "right" to a newcomer. |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by daphunky1
Being from Canada you will never hear even the most commercial house tunes that are big in Europe. Most are scared of anything with a 4/4 and when they hear anything edm-ish hafta do some sort of "pretend I'm raving action and say something like, I'm feeling the music" in a ridiculous and condesending way.
My roommates used to think it was hilarious to flash the lights on and off when I played tunes.
Anyways as such, the amount of exposure to certain music someone already has influences the topic a bit.... |
you live in the middle of nowhere. (canada's idaho)
in the cultural centers of the country there are tons of stations that cater to dance music. It might be cheesy crap, but it is there.;) |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
My comment was directed to associating women with liking cheesy vocal house. |
was i wrong? |
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| Seppuku |
I just started talking to a girl who is interested in but very new to EDM...she is starting off listening to stuff like Booka Shade and already enjoys techno. She discovered all this on her own. Its definitely not impossible for women to have good taste from the beginning.
And it'll be that much easier to corrupt her even more. :p |
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| palm |
| give her some chris liebing stuff |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
was i wrong? |
yes. |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
give her some chris liebing stuff |
no. |
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