but i understand what are you talking about emz. what would you do to prevent like this from happening??
p.s. hows it going bro?
I think it's a social problem and not sure that introducing capital punishment will solve anything. I think passing down harsher sentences for those who have a high probability of re-offending might help as well as reforming the Young Offenders Act (which I think is a joke).
All I'm saying is that these guys are going to continue to emerge if we don't try and address the problem at its root causes, which usually starts at a young age. I think it costs taxpayers a lot less money to prevent crime rather than dealing with it after. For everyone one of them you throw in jail, there is already some young kid who's ready to take his/her place on the streets.
ps. I'm good bro, just been laying low. how have you been? long time..
DigiNut
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Originally posted by dEsidEL
All I'm saying is that these guys are going to continue to emerge if we don't try and address the problem at its root causes, which usually starts at a young age.
I totally agree. We need to send a strong message to parents that it is no longer OK to keep giving their kids names like "Jamal", "Jorrell", and "Leroy". This crime could have prevented nearly 21 years ago, a few days after he was born.
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by dEsidEL
I think it's a social problem and not sure that introducing capital punishment will solve anything. I think passing down harsher sentences for those who have a high probability of re-offending might help as well as reforming the Young Offenders Act (which I think is a joke).
All I'm saying is that these guys are going to continue to emerge if we don't try and address the problem at its root causes, which usually starts at a young age. I think it costs taxpayers a lot less money to prevent crime rather than dealing with it after. For everyone one of them you throw in jail, there is already some young kid who's ready to take his/her place on the streets.
ps. I'm good bro, just been laying low. how have you been? long time..
emz, no matter what we or anybody else do there's always gonna be people like this. but if injection was introduced for murder 1 and murder 2 in some cases, im willing to bet my life 90% of these punks would think more than twice about carrying loaded gun in public, let alone pull it out and shoot. they just dont give a anymore, going to jail is like a ing badge of honor nowadays. go to jail as a minor in stealing, come out with the bachelor degree in murder, simple as that. and whats really, really ed up, who can we turn if we need protection from people like this??
you think this piece of will protect you, me or our children??
we cannot reform the whole society brother, its impossible. for every murderer we have 2 gangsters, for 2 of them we have 3 corrupted cops/officials/pm's or whatnot, for 3 of them we have 4 rapists and list goes on and on. we're all corrupted to the bone, every single last one of us (grownups). only people who are innocent and who deserve better from this ed up world are kids and everything should be done to protect them. thats why i think canada would be a lot better place if capital punishment was introduced. 7 years??? nah, not in my books.
murderers, rapists, child molesters... do they even deserve second chance??
p.s. long time indeed my brother. life's been good, lots of ups and downs but thats what makes it interesting heh. we should get together sometime soon and snap some limbs :)
Capo di tutti
If not everyday, atleast a few times a week I stop and remember Jane as I walk by the footlocker north of Dundas Sq. to or from home.
This is one event that has stuck with me and likely will forever.
Below is the most recent news on the case, though it is not good news as I believe nothing short of capital punishment would be just. These animals will get to live, I guess it's all we have to lean on in terms of our judicial system.
The parents should be held accountable for the actions of their children. Send the parents and the kids to jail. I am sure mommy and daddy are going to watch their kids a little closer if they could spend 10 years in jail for something their kid did.
rabbitjoker
Listen to this bastard!
Oh, hard life, no opportunities, things are difficult. Welcome to planet earth! Every person has a choice to do good, or do bad - regardless of situation.
This guy should serve life, no parole. Lying swine. They should only give deals if people tell the truth first, not after 3 years of lying.
zokissima
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
How about all the heads that shoot girls that are not pretty and white?
How is that relevant? Seems to completely miss the point of this thread.
+1 to Xavier. I come from the same background, and you don't see people who came to this country from TRUE poverty commiting these absurdities. So sick and tired of the lame old 'excuses' of broken home, broken family, blah blah blah. F*** them. Just line them up in a row, head to head, and save costs on the bullets.
zokissima
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Originally posted by dEsidEL
I think it's a social problem and not sure that introducing capital punishment will solve anything. I think passing down harsher sentences for those who have a high probability of re-offending might help as well as reforming the Young Offenders Act (which I think is a joke).
The argument is not just in favour of capital punishment. My (and Xaviers') country of origin just had a different system of life in general, and that extended into the treatment of social parasites like these people; for the life of me I can't understand this crap in this country. If wanted, if needed, ANY person, with a reasonable work ethic, can make a pretty damn good life here. These people don't really know hardships, not like they think they do, and that is why for some of us comming from countries that have seen wars, seen true poverty, and true ed-up-have-nothing-to-lose ways of life, just can't understand the overall lenient treatment of criminals here. Harsher sentences should be handed out, period, not just for those with a probability of re-offence.
I knew a kid who committed manslaughter. He went into some stupid fight, knocked a guys' head into a wall, killed him, and walked after less than a year. Immediately thereafter, and from last I heard, this was only a stepping stone for him; now he was a tru gangsta, havin' done his time, yo!
that! What did he learn after 8 months? What could he still be taught? What would it have taught him if he had been a part of some social outreach programme? Nothing!
patpicos
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I totally agree. We need to send a strong message to parents that it is no longer OK to keep giving their kids names like "Jamal", "Jorrell", and "Leroy". This crime could have prevented nearly 21 years ago, a few days after he was born.
yah condoms... swallowing the load...or abortion ;p
Capo di tutti
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Originally posted by devnull
yah condoms... swallowing the load...or abortion ;p
Agreed...these D-gen's should have def. been blowjobs.
deephousekid
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I totally agree. We need to send a strong message to parents that it is no longer OK to keep giving their kids names like "Jamal", "Jorrell", and "Leroy". This crime could have prevented nearly 21 years ago, a few days after he was born.
ah names dont really matter... BOB can be shooting up the place,jane,joe though those name you did mention arent really job worthy names
Stilez
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Originally posted by Stilez
I believe the only 2 that will serve the most will be the 2 who possessed weapons, but being with a dude who did the shooting (as in this case) probably won't get him much more time in jail than he's already served.
called it. The only 2 to even get charged were the ones with the weapons ..and rightfully so. Just cause you were with a guy who happened to have a gun and shoot someone, doesn't mean u should serve equal time as them. As fkd up as that sounds, it's what makes the law just. If they're into the whole thug , they'll get picked up on something else soon enough and they'll throw the book at them.
