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I'm obsessed with "hipsters" and meta-post-ironic commentary and sardonic mockery (pg. 3)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| hipsters. I want to know if you've just invented "Post Ironic", because I'm stealing the out of it from now on. |
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| nefardec |
| i don't have anything against these people. they're like nature's trash collectors, they complete the cycle. |
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| BuffaloJared |
| nothing wrong with the hipsters its the top 40 people who suck... |
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| Audious |
| Eh, I like a lot of the hipster fashion's. Not really into the whole "being snobby" thing. |
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| bas |
| I appreciate the unabashed slutiness of hipster chicks. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by L.E.N.
Trying so hard to be original that you're just like all the others with the same intent thus making you unoriginal. |
this very thought crosses my mind a lot when i'm judging people...especially TAs lolol |
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| Akridrot |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
hipsters. I want to know if you've just invented "Post Ironic", because I'm stealing the out of it from now on. |
Post-anything is not even that original of a concept anymore. So 'steal' all you want. Adding meta or post (sometimes pre) to anything is an easy shortcut to satire and high/lowbrow humor.
Just googled it: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=post+ironic
There's a ing TIME article on post-irony and I didn't even know it. Wow. www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990991,00.html (No, it just says post-ironic, it isn't actually about post-irony, sorry y'all :o ) |
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| Stasis |
| I heard when you turn 30 you get earnest again... |
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| BTG |
I am the ultimate cool.
i never wear anything that my mother didn't buy for me at the sears outlet store.
i never do anything with my hair.
I wear a toronto maple leafs hat.
i smoke.
my shoes are FILAs.
i dont' smoke weed.
and i drink an unpopular brand of beer.
i am so uncool that i am really ing cool. |
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| daphunky1 |
I think hipster fashion can be fun, and creative, as long as it's kept light-hearted enough. It's a bit like a hobby I guess ie: "check out my new vintage shirt I found". There's no problem with it, unless there is an elitist attitude that follows. There is a vintage store right near where I work. Except instead of having thrift-like prices, the store has already hand-selected all the old stuff that they are trying to push as the new-old fashion and as a result sell used t-shirts and sweaters for 30-50 dollars. And they are still in business so obviously someone is willing to pay these prices, and that's where the hipster comes in.
For me personally 90% of the pants and sweaters that I wear are second hand (I buy new socks and underwear and shoes). I began this in high school six years ago when it was first a novel change from the brand name clothes I was wearing. But I've now moved past the novelty and toward the practicality of it. For one, buying second hand clothes is very good for the environment. For two, I would feel like a sucker paying full price for new clothes when a perfectly fine and very cheap alternative exists, and in some cases no one could ever tell that the clothes are not brand new. But lastly and perhaps most importantly, I refuse to be a walking billboard. I will not buy any clothing in which a large brand name or logo can be seen unless I am very sure about the company and their business practices. I can't fathom how people in their 20's haven't grown out of the "advertising brand names make me cool" concept yet. And yes, I do find many older fashions (70's in particular) are closer to what I personally like to wear. So every way I look at it, I win.
To the OP or anyone else who finds counter-culture so intriguing, "The Rebel Sell" is an absolute must read. I think I'll try and read it again this summer to better understand it the second time around.
Also I'm not sure if any of you read Adbusters, which is a counter-culture magazine, but they did an article on hipsters last summer which created a huge discussion and many responses from readers.
Some of what the writer was saying seemed like he was just old and bitter but the main point that really stuck with me is when he writes that each counter-culture movement in the past had something to fight for, something to work towards, equality, women's rights, the war in Vietnam, but this current counter-culture is completely empty with no goals,nothing to fight for, but just being counter-culture for the sake of personal gain.
I'm sure this article can still be found on adbusters.org
...found it: http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html |
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| Akridrot |
| I posted that in the OP |
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| Darkarbiter |
My best friend is a hipster, I highly ing sympathisize :mad: :whip:
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
I love that episode of South Park where Kyle becomes the goth and the whole thing parodies "non-conformists". While the show may appear crude and cheap on the surface, those guys certainly have a good perspective on the ty bits of the society and/or current issues and how to send them up. |
Still, just because you try to be something doesn't mean your stupid. It's a whole lot better trying to be goth then some whore, but really, there's a fine line between trying too hard to be something and just generally agreeing with something so you tend to like everything to do with said thing and are in awe so automatically copy most of the rest, and a lot of goth/emo people are actually really nice. Sure there's snobs just like in everything (especially with hipsters/indies) and theres idiots, but that doesn't mean that the you see on youtube is actually true.
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
I've never been part of a fashion-dictated sub-culture. I just don't get it. It's almost like people are so insecure about who they are and where they "belong" in society that they have to dress and act like other people to make themselves feel better. When I see people like that I automatically think they have low self-esteem.
I mean, of course, everyone plays that game to a certain degree - we all wear clothes outside because it's weird not to, but what I don't understand is people who all of a sudden say "I want to be part of [x] culture, I had better go out and buy appropriate clothes." |
I know tons of people that dress in black, primarily because its bloody hot. Makes your body stand out more, and black clothes+eyeliner makes the other one look better and your eyes and hair really stand out, but anyway I'm sure you guys disagree with me on that, but thats the reason why people tend to date people in their own clique. It's because they'll think people with the hair+clothes that they really like are really bloody hot, and lose interest in what 90% of girls/boys look like. People tend not to act like other people unless they are insecure though, although sometimes if your in awe of something then you just automatically become more like it+ you'll listen to the music/movies and that changes your personality too.
and yeh, my best friend thinks that all emo guys are generic, because they all wear black faded to grey skinnies/black clothes and have spikeyish hair and a fringe. Which I guess is sortof true, until I realise her definition of awesome is either guys who wear black skinnies and lame t shirts or guys who wear suits/the mod fashion, and thats pretty much all the same too. |
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