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The 0.2 vs 0.5 resolution debate.....! (pg. 3)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by miamitranceman
The mk1 also lags a bit more when cueing in stutter mode...at least the ones I used did. |
Is that the same for the 800 mk1? |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Either your mixing sucks, or you're talking bull.
I could believe you if this was every once in a while, but you're talking horse if you reckon that for every 2 minute transition you touch the platter once on a 0.1 resolution. |
certain tracks just work, but i agree, 2 minutes even on .05 is rare. probably 1-10 transitions where it works perfect like that from my experience
| quote: | Originally posted by miamitranceman
The mk1 also lags a bit more when cueing in stutter mode...at least the ones I used did. |
i'm surprised anyone uses stutter mode by choice :p |
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| msz |
| lol u still have to fix it on analogue tech 12 pitch a lot of the time. u will have to fix it im sure on a 0.1 unless you calibrate all your tracks before hand. they have some crazy bpm numbers 127.857 |
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| miamitranceman |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Is that the same for the 800 mk1? |
Never used the 800 mk1s so I'm not sure. |
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| hooknife |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
it doesnt have to do with technic imo. its about focusing on other things than the beatmatchning which should be ancient history by now, so i wont buy any software before it gets 0,1 or lower. on 1210 its endless resolution and it just gets perfect. its a waste of time jogging up and down every 10th second when u could be turning knobs for efex. were still humans with only two arms. |
So true! |
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| Ryan0751 |
1999 called and wants your point back :)
Software can go waaay lower than 0.1. You can even let it sync for you, and it will NEVER EVER EVER drift :)
And come on, with CDJ-1000's in 6%/.02 pitch mode you can lock tracks for WAY longer then on 1200's.
| quote: | Originally posted by hooknife
So true! |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
1999 called and wants your point back :)
Software can go waaay lower than 0.1. You can even let it sync for you, and it will NEVER EVER EVER drift :)
And come on, with CDJ-1000's in 6%/.02 pitch mode you can lock tracks for WAY longer then on 1200's. |
i heard from someone awhile back forgot his ta name, said the technics can be modified to 6% |
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| DJ RANN |
yup, you're right. You can also make them g to +/-16.
It's just a matter of adjusting the small potentiometer to the correct resistance level. You can do this by running a meter across the pot but I forget now what the setting is.
I even remember seeing one where they guy had drilled a hole though the upper casing and had a mini screwdriver in place so he could adjust it. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| What about audio warping, i see the pro's do it for their mixes like asot. Can a whole mix be done in less than 15 mins? Does warping mess around with the tracks waveform destructively? |
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| Rippey64 |
one year ago, i was thinking that 0.02 was useless, now i find the 0.05 really irritable when you have more than 3 bpm between your 2 songs.
We used to have rent cdj 1000 mk3 during 4 month then boss bought us cdj 800 mk2, that's really boring to know that your 2 songs are not beatmatched cause of your hardware and not cause of yourself. |
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| Stu Cox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Whilst I see the logic, I feel that being able to match a beat at 0.2 requires a MORE sensitive ear.
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Meh, surely people with a slightly less sensitive ear will just get it as accurately as they do on CDJs with 0.05% increments?
And re. the idea that it's "a non starter because anyone with any beatmatching skills can hold a mix at 0.5"... I've mixed ok with 1% increments before - it was fairly ropey but it's doable - but that certainly doesn't mean I want to do that all the time, having to constantly keep it in time. 0.05% vs 0.02% is the same idea just a slightly more subtle difference.
I think I actually notice the difference between 0.05% and 0.02% more now than I ever have, seeing that I play out (on CDJ1000s) about as often as I play at home (on a CDJ800 and a pair of CDJ100s) and it's primarily for that reason that I've been considering spanking nearly 2 grand on a pair of 1000s in this time of DJ gear being bloody expensive.
Just because I can mix ok on CDJ800s doesn't mean I shouldn't be striving to make it better. |
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| DJ RANN |
you mean 0.1 increments? Never seen decks with 1%....and you'd constantly have to ride them.
I have the same home setup as you and yes it is slightly nicer to have the 0.02 on 1000's but I can get my cdj800 and cdj100 locked in a matter of seconds and not have to touch it again for a 2 min transition.
So basically the extra $600 (per deck) to upgrade from the cdj800 to a 1000 just isn't justified. Again IMO, if you can't get it down on a 800 then a 1000 isn;t going to magically let you... |
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