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Chaining Serato with ableton
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Rippey64
Hello,

I use to mix with serato since a year and half. Most of mixer in nightclub where i spin is rodec mx180, so no effect and no send/return.

I want to do per serato deck : serato -> ableton -> mixer. At the moment, i only want to use effect, perhaps more later.

I know that serato and ableton are working together on some product, i did email serato, i got a classic answer : we don't know when we will release something, this is not our politics to leak info ...

I did test chaining on one deck using internal sound card of my macbook pro, that works fine but I have some questions :

- when i use effects, level is growing a way too much. a friend told me to put a limiter, but it limits the whole sound and the main thing is that i want to keep signal as pure as i can when i dont use effect.

- i did use line input from laptop to test, signal was at 0 on ableton track but signal was fully red, does it come from the sound card ? will it work better with a decent sound card ? do i have a chance that ableton will modify the original sound by getting too much high input signal ?


So i'm about to buy a sound card, i stopped my look on :

- tc electronic konnekt 24d, got 2 friends using it with live.
- edirol fa-101, a friend which release tracks on bonzai use edirol as home studio soundcard.

I don't want to put more than 400 euro on a soundcard as long I spent 600 on sl-3 last month.

Ps : i know i could probably do :
- use only ableton live but im not a big fan of warping track.
- use traktor, i don't like the gui, and more important for me, the waveform, some times i spin track i got 3 hours before gigs, and got a colored waveform is perfect for me.
Polt
I record my sets on my MBP all the time. It may seem like common sense, but make sure that the input level in your system preferences is set low enough that the signal is not too loud. Also check the mixer output volume.

Just things to double check before you spend money on more gear.
Rippey64
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Originally posted by Polt
I record my sets on my MBP all the time. It may seem like common sense, but make sure that the input level in your system preferences is set low enough that the signal is not too loud. Also check the mixer output volume.

Just things to double check before you spend money on more gear.


I need 2 In/Out (3 if i bet in serato to make this 3rd deck avaible), which is impossible without external soundcard.

About level, does setting down entry level modifying signal ? am i loosing information ? (setting down level then processing it as digital to put it as analog again)
i got big pants
you could use the sends and returns in ableton. theres something called a utility trick in order to prevent any volume spikes

http://sonictransfer.com/mixing-abl...ty-plugin.shtml
Rippey64
thanks for link, but i was not really satisfied with the result.
i did find an interesting solution :
http://www.cosm.co.nz/index.php?opt...s&catid=20:news


so i did :

1 button bind to send and reverse to the channel vol (when i hit button, send goes to max, level goes to 0) and use send as pre (signal is always going to send, no matters what the vol level is).

i put a limiter on the effect channel, so the effect channel never goes to high.
xtr3m
Perhaps a solution to a similar problem could help: http://www.djtechtools.com/2008/04/...r-with-ableton/
Rippey64
did my first gig yesterday with serato chain to ableton, worked great :)
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