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Police can seize your property without charges being laid or conviction (pg. 5)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
Actually, it was the Mike Harris gov't who passed the "Ontario’s Civil Remedies Act" in 2001.
but I guess you're off the hook by saying "mostly" ;) |
Oh i must say that this is one issue where conservatives and i sometimes do not get along. But whereas conservative policy tends to be broad based. Left wing ideologues tend to have a knack for fine tuning and being specific when it comes to controlling people. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I totally get ya... But consider this...
If a guy is hiding in the woods behind a schoolyard, seen observing school children from behind trees. He's carrying a napsack. He's found by a teacher who calls the police. Police arrive and aprehend him. His knapsack is searched, and young children in provacative pictures were found, along with plasting fastenner ties, duct tape and rope.
How much really is being close to obvious? There are too many real sickos out there that get off on technicalities. Guilt may not be proven in court, but intent can be obvious sometimes. |
If he was trespassing he should have been told to leave. If he refused that is grounds to press charges. Otherwise i dont think there should be a case here as disgusting as this is. |
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| shevchenko135 |
Bottom line is that the police should not have the right to take your under suspicion alone. Without pressing charges or even giving you a good reason as to why. With this kind of power they could do it out of spite alone. People think this only applies to small things like money and growing lights.
If someone gives an anonymous tip saying there's a lot of people going in and out of your home and then cops come around and the place smells like weed, They can take your home away from you under suspicion that your selling drugs. That's literally the power that is being given to these people and its all supported by the courts.
Just because of the story in the article demonstrating this power, people are focusing on the fact that he maybe actually was selling drugs, but that's besides the point. We as a free democratic society should not even have to be arguing about a ridiculous shift in power like this on this forum. This is bull and it's not like it will stop at this one law. They will keep piling on and soon anyone walking outside past 10 pm will be suspected of being a drug dealing pimp that is planning a terrorist scheme to blow up the c.n. tower. Under suspicion alone. |
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| Wurm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
being an ass |
Wow.
I'll remember to order in a beat-down next time you step out of line. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wurm
Wow.
I'll remember to order in a beat-down next time you step out of line. |
I sure got my share of beatings for being an ass on TA and off, believe me!
Sure the guy has rights, but what did he gain from all that? I don't think it was worth it. |
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| miketg23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Again, for those who think we arent headed toward fascism, have a read. |
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| miketg23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Again, for those who think we arent headed toward fascism, have a read. |
FYI
Fascism is a right wing capitalist ideology. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by miketg23
FYI
Fascism is a right wing capitalist ideology. |
No.
In fact, free-market capitalism is completely incompatible with any type of dictatorship, left or right. |
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| miketg23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
No.
In fact, free-market capitalism is completely incompatible with any type of dictatorship, left or right. |
Never do I mention free-market capitalism.
Fascism is merger between "the corporation" and government in order to create a dictatorship where the government, meaning "the corporation" has complete control. This becomes a STATE capitalism.
Left wing socialism is to communism as Lessez faire capitalism is to fascism. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by miketg23
Fascism is merger between "the corporation" and government in order to create a dictatorship where the government, meaning "the corporation" has complete control. This becomes a STATE capitalism. |
Capitalism IS free-market capitalism. There's no other kind. Capitalism is based on competition, and if there is only one corporation, capitalism can't exist.
You must be using some crazy Kos-esque definition of capitalism. Fascism can be either a right- or left-wing dictatorship, but in particular one where speech and industry are tightly controlled. It may bear some superficial resemblance to a monolithic corporation, but then again, so does communism. |
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| chinamon |
| hmm i never learned this in school. |
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