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| Elendil |
Interesting read, found off the "Hour of the Time", a great source for non-media-popular news reads.
Read Full Article with Graph Here...
By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
November 12, 2007 - 01:57 ET
So, you think today's temperatures are out of the ordinary?
Nobel Laureate Al Gore does, and strongly made the case in his schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" with all kinds of neat slides and graphs.
Of course, despite incessant claims of a consensus concerning this premise, not everyone agrees.
In fact, climatologist Cliff Harris and meteorologist Randy Mann, who, amongst other things, run a website called Long Range Weather, have created an absolutely marvelous long-term global temperature chart that wasn't in Gore's movie, and every climate alarmist in the media desperately hopes you never see it:
Unfortunately, to configure the picture in the space available, the text inside is a tad illegible. Those interested in viewing a larger more readable image should go here.
That said, it's great stuff, wouldn't you agree? And, so is this article by Harris and Mann entitled "Could This Cycle ‘Global Warming' Finally Be Winding Down?" (emphasis added throughout):
For many years, following widespread ICE AGE predictions back in the 1970s, we've heard that our planet is warming up "at an alarming rate". A study from the National Academy of Science claims that "global warming is real and has been strengthening since 1981." These scientists say that the leading cause of this latest warming is the increasing emissions of greenhouse gases and carbon dioxide. They also state that by the year 2100, temperatures may increase by 2.5 degrees to as much as 10.4 degrees Fahrenheit above those of today.
Up until late 2002, much of the Northern Hemisphere north of Latitude 40 was actually becoming GREENER with less total ice. In fact, the average growing season had been extended by around 2 weeks based on satellite data at the time.
BUT, now, we believe that temperatures are beginning to cool again, particularly in north- central Canada where this summer there was only about 2 weeks between damaging freezes from late June into mid-July. One of our Harris-Mann Climatology clients went fishing between July 10-13 in northwestern Saskatchewan and reported "piles of ice" still on the ground in the region and temperatures close to the freezing mark.
Although the recent summers of the early 21st Century have been amongst the hottest and driest on record across most of the U.S., the winter seasons, by extreme contrast, have been some of the coldest in recorded history. For example, Siberia in Russia reported readings of -70 degrees in January of 2001.
Even if our planet is warming up as many scientists claim, we're still much cooler today than we were four to eight-thousand years ago. In fact, there were probably no mid-latitude glaciers about 800 million years ago, because the Earth's climate was so mild at the time.
Temperatures today are primarily measured over concrete surfaces compared to grassy ones years ago. We all know that concrete and asphalt absorb heat and this often results in higher afternoon temperatures, especially when we have conditions of very little wind. During a typical hot, summer day, high temperatures may be as much as 3-7 degrees warmer at the official airport or downtown locations compared to outlying rural areas.
Mann and Harris went on to discuss the heat island effect in a fashion that very much confirms the work of Anthony Watts previously reported by NewsBusters.
With that in mind, the reader is strongly encouraged to read the entire piece.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters." |
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| rabbitjoker |
| Edit: found it. |
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| jpgrdnr |
As much as I support critical thinking regarding this issue, I still believe that by the amount of pollution our world population is putting out how can it not have an effect? Its common-sense really and has nothing to with "science."
A more apt question is why the hate for Gore? Why is it in the Conservative agenda to support such facile arguments?
TBH that Harris-Mann stuff looks like 2nd rate conjecture and shows very little hard evidence/imperical data. Just my 2c. |
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| geroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by jpgrdnr
As much as I support critical thinking regarding this issue, I still believe that by the amount of pollution our world population is putting out how can it not have an effect? Its common-sense really and has nothing to with "science."
A more apt question is why the hate for Gore? Why is it in the Conservative agenda to support such facile arguments?
TBH that Harris-Mann stuff looks like 2nd rate conjecture and shows very little hard evidence/imperical data. Just my 2c. |
but there was always polution before, be it volcano eruptions, wildfires, floods etc and earth was able to recover from that.. |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by jpgrdnr
As much as I support critical thinking regarding this issue, I still believe that by the amount of pollution our world population is putting out how can it not have an effect? Its common-sense really and has nothing to with "science." |
Greenhouse gases are not necessarily pollutants. If it's not causing the ice caps to melt, Co2, for example, is relatively harmless, as it's cycled through trees and becomes oxygen again.
| quote: | | A more apt question is why the hate for Gore? Why is it in the Conservative agenda to support such facile arguments? |
Because trying to stop something that may not actually exist is potentially going to cripple our economies and cost billions, if not trillions of wasted dollars to carry out such an initiative, would be my guess. |
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| VERTiG0 |
| Take that, wacko environmentalists. |
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| malek |
ing ouch:
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
but there was always polution before, be it volcano eruptions, wildfires, floods etc and earth was able to recover from that.. |
you may be right but we have made pollution many many times worse than what nature creates on its own. there are tons of pollutants that are not naturally occurring which are what damage our environment. |
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| Anas Attia |
earth will be fine no matter what...
its us that are doomed :)
PS in short, CO2 levels are affected by the change in temperature, not the other way around. what a scam I love it.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Spam Because trying to stop something that may not actually exist is potentially going to cripple our economies and cost billions, if not trillions of wasted dollars to carry out such an initiative, would be my guess. |
Yes! and many wasted scientist neurons |
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| Elendil |
Its not about pollution. Poisoning the planet is clearly a retarded way to go about living.
Hell, I'm HUGELY against environmental destruction. I use few (and by few, I mean as few as I feasibly can, including gasoline and automobile) toxic substances of any sort in my home or my daily routine. I'm what most people consider a tree hugging hippy nature freak. However, I'm NOT about bull propaganda.
The point is, the religious fanatics backing "global warming" are often no different than any other fanatic, and are forcing a political agenda down all of our throats that WE FOOT THE BILL FOR. Look at the cutting back of public services and investment in infrastructure, all for the sake of garbage science backed programs like carbon cap and trade. It's horrid.
Beyond all that, I really just thought some people would be interested in reading something other than the "omg the world is going to burn up in a giant fireball of greenhouse turbonatoring nuclearactivating super haze!" like you'd conventionally find on any news broadcast ;)
Hell, some would say we're on the precipice of a coming Ice Age. Now, the real question? Is that damned squirrel going to get the acorn or what? |
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| Nick Cenik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anas Attia
CO2 levels are affected by the change in temperature, not the other way around. |
Indeed. Man-made global warming (via the release of C02) is a myth, and a very dangerous one at that:
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
trying to stop something that may not actually exist [may] cripple our economies and cost billions, if not trillions of...dollars |
Check THIS out |
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| VERTiG0 |
| Crank those coal fired power plants back up! |
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