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So if you buy a royalty free sample pack (pg. 2)
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Pjotr G
I don't think so, unless you would send the production to her to work on it and she would mess with those samples herself.

The license is for you and you only and it's non-transferable, but I don't infer that other people can't be in the room with you when you use it.

Either way, I'm not the know-it-all of this stuff :D. I have no problems using these samples in a collab.
adi_hanson
ive read the agreement and it simply says

use it yourself
keep it to yourself
use it in YOUR productions
keep it on YOUR computer.

whats so hard?

i.e

Dont resell
Dont Torrent
Dont give to someone else
Dont make copies

pretty much what any software agreement says.


so in a nutshell , they are a business and want everyone to buy it.And frighten people into doing so.
But with collaborating? Do they need to know?
orTofønChiLd
:crazy: :haha:
StephenWiley
well i'm not a very good producer. lately my songs have just been a series of percussion one shots keyed in upwards in camelot format to make sure they sound alright.

I also happen to own a label. I wonder if people would buy my tracks if I released them.

I make some damn good tracks I bet I could get in the top ten. Those streaming one shot hi hats that slowly rise in pitch are f'in wicked!

Oh, and if you care, I live in America but the label I want to release through is in the UK. That shouldn't effect my surge to the top ten though!
dannib
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If you can sell a track using royalty free samples, why couldnt you sell the samples


Becuase if you read any license agreement it states that you have to use the samples in a musical context. Why would a sample company allow you to sell the samples? that would be silly.
owien
but i guess they still will have to prove you used them in the very first hand.

so i can't see how they can!
DigiNut
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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
What's the thresh hold though? Legally? That contract would not hold up in court. The terms used in it are too subjective. Not only that, but it's highly possible it would be an international lawsuit if filed, which just makes it even harder on the person filing the suit.

Of course it would hold up in court. The same rules apply to almost anything you can store on a computer.

Take your sequencer, for example - Cubase or Ableton or whatever you use. Buying that software gives you a license to use it freely and distribute the work you make on it - for a profit, if you can. But that same license does not permit you to make copies of the software itself and sell it to everybody you know. It doesn't work that way.

Believe me, courts know how to distinguish this. Artists have been sued for much less blatant kinds of infringement (such as sampling 5 seconds of drums from another song, processing the hell out of it, and using it in their own track).
Subtle
quote:
Originally posted by dannib
Becuase if you read any license agreement it states that you have to use the samples in a musical context. Why would a sample company allow you to sell the samples? that would be silly.
Yeah i misread the topic.. i thought he meant samples from sample packs that were given away for free.
StephenWiley
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Originally posted by Subtle
Yeah i misread the topic.. i thought he meant samples from sample packs that were given away for free.


That too.

I still don't see who has the final say so in what is music and what isn't. Ableton and Cubase is not a fair comparison. Apples and Oranges my friend. I paid money for a sample pack, and taking all those 1 shot snares and rolling them slowly is such a soothing feeling. It's not my fault if somebody cuts the one shots into one shots.
Pjotr G
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Originally posted by StephenWiley

I still don't see who has the final say so in what is music and what isn't.


Ultimately, a judge. You can try your hypothetical, 'this is my music, it just happens to be your dry samples played in isolation'. However the agreement covers that.

PutBoy
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Originally posted by Pjotr G
this is my music, it just happens to be your dry samples played in isolation


"And believe it or not, your honor, there is an audience for it..."

lol ;P
Stephen Wiley
There is. It would sell like hot cakes at 1.99 a track. I'd go old school and make some 13 minute songs.
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