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Ignoring the trends: Steve Bug (pg. 3)
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| Tarpex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
Even a lot of people found the difference between 256kbit and 320 perceivable, so why shouldn't it be the same for 320kbit mp3 and wav? |
Waves meters, all kinds of them, are an excellent thing. I dare say that without really good monitors no average joe can distinguish between a wav and 320 mp3.
If anyone can notice the difference on low end soundcards / laptop soundchips and home stereo speakers, they're lying. |
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| Lucidity |
| quote: | Originally posted by G-Con
No, Traktor was released after Final Scratch. |
I could have sworn Traktor was before Final Scratch, I had Traktor then, I bought Final Scratch, I had the first version of FS, the one that was built to run on linux. I have horrible memory, so I can't say 100 percent which was first, but, I remember that FS I had on preorder when it first was released, and I'm pretty sure I was using Traktor before I got FS. Maybe someone can figure this out, it is actually baffling me now.:conf: |
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| Stef |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lucidity
I could have sworn Traktor was before Final Scratch, I had Traktor then, I bought Final Scratch, I had the first version of FS, the one that was built to run on linux. I have horrible memory, so I can't say 100 percent which was first, but, I remember that FS I had on preorder when it first was released, and I'm pretty sure I was using Traktor before I got FS. Maybe someone can figure this out, it is actually baffling me now.:conf: |
Traktor came out as a strictly software solution to "DJing" using your mouse and keyboard. Then final scratch came out as a hardware/software integration module running via the traktor software. |
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| G-Con |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stef
Traktor came out as a strictly software solution to "DJing" using your mouse and keyboard. Then final scratch came out as a hardware/software integration module running via the traktor software. |
Yes, I suppose technically Traktor came out first, but the Traktor we know today came after Final Scratch. |
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| hexadecimal |
He made a couple good points, but a lot of what he said was idiotic... and this is coming from someone who pretty much hates everything about what's going on in electronic music today.
"I used a lot of analogue gear for the album, but it wasn’t solely produced using analogue. These days it would be hard to produce a whole album using only outboard gear."
What exactly makes it any harder to produce an album using hardware today, than it was before the software revolution?
Then he mentioned something about having knobs, as a point as to why analog is better (and that's subjective anyway - I have a ton of hardware, and just ordered a Buchla 200e specifically because it's a mix of digital and analog). There is plenty of digital gear out there that is loaded with knobs, and plenty of control surfaces to give you that same hands on control, even over software.
I couldn't read through the whole article... just skimmed. He is definitely full of himself (so he fits right in with most of the rest of the scene- e.g. the people he is trying to insult). |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tarpex
Waves meters, all kinds of them, are an excellent thing. I dare say that without really good monitors no average joe can distinguish between a wav and 320 mp3.
If anyone can notice the difference on low end soundcards / laptop soundchips and home stereo speakers, they're lying. |
Thank you for repeating what I was implying. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| He might be exagerating a few things but nobody here can know for sure. Most you folks might not even know who he is, which makes anything you say irrelevant. He started out very young and travaled the world and really established himself. Personally I think there is truth in every word word he said. Like it or not, this guy is on another level from us. |
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| Tarpex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Nacht
He might be exagerating a few things but nobody here can know for sure. Most you folks might not even know who he is, which makes anything you say irrelevant. He started out very young and travaled the world and really established himself. Personally I think there is truth in every word word he said. Like it or not, this guy is on another level from us. |
Depends on how you like to process the informations you're receiving. You do know that there's a few of us here on TA that are making music on a professional level and simply not brag about it, yet with the stuff we learn on our producers journeys make us able to call shenanigans like above-mentioned crap?
There's some jaded producers whine in his interview, along with some bigger-than-life "truths" that try to make him a god in the eyes of the casual reader, that's all publicity whoring.
You never hear superstars that top the charts saying that kind of elitist crap, and for a reason. No need to increase their publicity with some cocked-up nonsense, and most of the others don't want to fall to that level, just some food for thought. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| Why would he brag about his career in some lousy interview? He was asked to talk about those specific topics, which he gave his opinion on. Everything he said might be the truth for him and he sees it that way because it worked. It all ends up becoming a bunch of bits in the end, I think that he understands them diffently then most people. Your point is valid though and I respect both your opinions. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tarpex
Depends on how you like to process the informations you're receiving. You do know that there's a few of us here on TA that are making music on a professional level and simply not brag about it, yet with the stuff we learn on our producers journeys make us able to call shenanigans like above-mentioned crap?
There's some jaded producers whine in his interview, along with some bigger-than-life "truths" that try to make him a god in the eyes of the casual reader, that's all publicity whoring.
You never hear superstars that top the charts saying that kind of elitist crap, and for a reason. No need to increase their publicity with some cocked-up nonsense, and most of the others don't want to fall to that level, just some food for thought. |
Why is it crap? |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tarpex
Depends on how you like to process the informations you're receiving. You do know that there's a few of us here on TA that are making music on a professional level and simply not brag about it, yet with the stuff we learn on our producers journeys make us able to call shenanigans like above-mentioned crap?
There's some jaded producers whine in his interview, along with some bigger-than-life "truths" that try to make him a god in the eyes of the casual reader, that's all publicity whoring.
You never hear superstars that top the charts saying that kind of elitist crap, and for a reason. No need to increase their publicity with some cocked-up nonsense, and most of the others don't want to fall to that level, just some food for thought. |
Now I'm gonna call shenanigans. There are plenty. Look harder. Paul van Dijk for instance claims to hear the difference.
I think you don't hear most superstars talking about these things as they mostly don't have the slightest idea what they're talking about when it comes to music production technicalities. |
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| Tarpex |
Depends on encoding aswell, the latest LAME or fraunhofers make it virtually impossible to distinguish on my monitors, and my ears are pretty well trained.
This goes in the approximate category of vinyl "sound" vs digital sound, where all the ing "warmth" of the vinyl comes from the fact that everything under 300hz is mono and sounds better defined, nowadays a lot of people unaware of that fact leave their sub section in stereo and there's your vinyl vs digital difference.
Call it shenanigans if you will, I'm not talking some nonsense just for the sake of saying something. |
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