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Congressman Peter King speaks bout MJ
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| DJ Eco |
| Talented singer and you can't take that away from him... But Congressman King is 100% on point, good for him... |
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| wotyzoid |
| I cannot agree with this. Army troops never revolutionized the music industry in the 80's or ever became historic icons. |
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| Scoops |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
Army troops or ever became historic icons. |
Dwight D. Eisenhower |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scoops
Dwight D. Eisenhower |
I meant now. |
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| Konijn |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I meant now. |
then they can't be historic. |
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| wotyzoid |
| Haha let me reword. I'm all for supporting troops right now but it's hard to forget the fact that most Americans think the war was a mistake. There is nothing noble or revolutionary about it. It's a mess. MJ on the other had an artistic impact in the world that can hardly be paralleled. His influence was so monumental it's hard to believe that anything like it will ever happen again. Obviously, IMHO. |
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| Neo95gt |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I cannot agree with this. Army troops never revolutionized the music industry in the 80's or ever became historic icons. |
You've got to be kidding me :stongue: |
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| wotyzoid |
| I think I was strongly misinterpreted. People who lost their lives to the war never did as much for entertainment as Michael Jackson or have ever earned the amount of popularity he achieved throughout his career, thus why they aren't mentioned often or given as much importance to as he is now. Sad reality. |
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| The Vza |
I disagree with the Congressman.
Maybe I'm a jerk. Maybe im biased because I'm a music major.
Michael Jackson transcended music. Not only did he revolutionize the industry, essentially remolding and creating the term 'pop' as it relates to music, as well as making the music video and MTV what it is today... BUT...
He, through music, touched the hearts of 100's and 100's and 100's of millions of people.
In times of depression, recession, war, misery, etc. People turn to sports and entertainment as their way out. Mike's music provided an escape from virtually anything, although that escape may have been temporary.
I get what the congressman i saying about cops, firefighters, soldiers.... those people are CLEARLY better role models than Michael, because they are the type of everyday people that we could all become. PD's, FD's and members of our armed services are regular people providing an extraordinary public service and embody the principles we should all live our lives by.
with that being said, no cop, firefighter, or soldier ever affected so many people in a positive way as MJ did. Unless you want to argue that hypothetically, war heroes have an affect on future generations. but then again, so does Mike.
I dunno, that's my 2 cents. Love or hate it, you just read it
EDIT... one more thing...
I just want to reiterate my point that MJ is in no way a role model. He was a puppet of his father. He had immense success, made all these people happy, but at what price? he went nuts and allegedly abused a lot of kids. Did he? probably yes. Do I know for sure? nope. But he probably did. Either way, the dude had issues with his identity, skin bleaching and all.
So, despite the fact that he went nuts, I still say he is far more important to the world than any cop, firefighter or soldier.
PS did anyone ever notice that terrorists call themselves 'freedom fighters' and our soldiers are fighting for freedom??? weird huh |
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| zizack |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Vza
I disagree with the Congressman.
Maybe I'm a jerk. Maybe im biased because I'm a music major.
Michael Jackson transcended music. Not only did he revolutionize the industry, essentially remolding and creating the term 'pop' as it relates to music, as well as making the music video and MTV what it is today... BUT...
He, through music, touched the hearts of 100's and 100's and 100's of millions of people.
In times of depression, recession, war, misery, etc. People turn to sports and entertainment as their way out. Mike's music provided an escape from virtually anything, although that escape may have been temporary.
I get what the congressman i saying about cops, firefighters, soldiers.... those people are CLEARLY better role models than Michael, because they are the type of everyday people that we could all become. PD's, FD's and members of our armed services are regular people providing an extraordinary public service and embody the principles we should all live our lives by.
with that being said, no cop, firefighter, or soldier ever affected so many people in a positive way as MJ did. Unless you want to argue that hypothetically, war heroes have an affect on future generations. but then again, so does Mike.
I dunno, that's my 2 cents. Love or hate it, you just read it
EDIT... one more thing...
I just want to reiterate my point that MJ is in no way a role model. He was a puppet of his father. He had immense success, made all these people happy, but at what price? he went nuts and allegedly abused a lot of kids. Did he? probably yes. Do I know for sure? nope. But he probably did. Either way, the dude had issues with his identity, skin bleaching and all.
So, despite the fact that he went nuts, I still say he is far more important to the world than any cop, firefighter or soldier.
PS did anyone ever notice that terrorists call themselves 'freedom fighters' and our soldiers are fighting for freedom??? weird huh |
Yeah, but the reality is that "Michael Jackson" wasn't just one person. To become the pop icon that he was, he needed a ridiculously huge team of people behind him...song writers, producers, dance choreographers, publicists, etc... Its not like he was this supreme being who single-handedly reached out from the bottom of his heart to touch all those 100's of millions of people you mentioned because he was this hero of a person.
The reality is that the actual person behind the name was not such a great person...and one who did some very bad things.
While his death is obviously newsworthy, its a little disturbing to hear people talk about it like its this HUGE tragedy, while at the same time people are dying all over the world doing actual "heroic" things.
My 2 cents. |
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| The Vza |
| quote: | Originally posted by zizack
Yeah, but the reality is that "Michael Jackson" wasn't just one person. To become the pop icon that he was, he needed a ridiculously huge team of people behind him...song writers, producers, dance choreographers, publicists, etc... Its not like he was this supreme being who single-handedly reached out from the bottom of his heart to touch all those 100's of millions of people you mentioned because he was this hero of a person.
The reality is that the actual person behind the name was not such a great person...and one who did some very bad things.
While his death is obviously newsworthy, its a little disturbing to hear people talk about it like its this HUGE tragedy, while at the same time people are dying all over the world doing actual "heroic" things.
My 2 cents. |
fair enough. It does take a lot to make someone a megastar. But Mike was the peanut butter and jelly. Everyone else was the whole wheat and grains. but without the whole wheat and grains, you aint got no sandwich.
I'd rather hear about MJ's death than jon and kate +8 or what's going down on celebrity island or whatever the it is. I dunno, i guess its a personal preference.
I think the reason the media chooses to focus on like celebrity scandal is because it's detached from our everyday lives. Things like dying soldiers and burning buildings make me think, that could be me. i dunno. im done |
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