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| henryv |
Quick question. When mastering do you master the whole track or can you master each channel/each sound?
very new to mastering & i've been reading the master list page for mastering
DAW: Ableton |
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| vikernes |
Dude. You do not learn mastering from a forum, lol. No offense, but if you're asking if you can 'master' each channel or the whole track, you're much better off just dropping in a LL16 on the master and choosing a preset and tweaking it a little until it sounds good to you.
I'm not an expert on this field, but those who are have years and years of experience behind them. You don't just learn it. It's a lifelong process (just as everything else) to master it.
But if you really wanna become a mastering engineer there are university's that teach this stuff, and courses you can take etc... if you're really serious about it.
But if you want to master your own tracks. Don't. Just pay someone who does this professionally 50 bucks and he'll do a much better job than you.
It's so funny to me. People get warezed T-Racks plugins and immediate want to start mastering their own stuff :) So, if you could get a free microphone you'd all of a sudden become a singer? |
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| Acton |
| quote: | Originally posted by vikernes
But if you want to master your own tracks. Don't. Just pay someone who does this professionally 50 bucks and he'll do a much better job than you.
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Well aren't you Captain Inspiring.
My advice would be, first of all ignore everything vikernes posted. Secondly, it seems you are new to the mastering process, that's fine, everyone has been there at some point and I can almost guarantee that most of us are still trying to perfect it. It takes time, but there is a wealth of information out there, it just requires a lot of searching, via the internet and through forums such as TA for topics that have already been posted, but most of all, it requires practice.......and patience.
But back to the original question, most tunes are mastered on the master channel, but there is nothing wrong with fine tuning all the individual channels if it creates the desired results. As an example, I believe this is the way Eric Prydz works. |
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| Subtle |
Importance of a good sounding track:
Mastering 10%
Mixing 90%
At least i know people often think its something like 50-50 ;D |
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| Acton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Importance of a good sounding track:
Mastering 10%
Mixing 90%
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Probably less than that in my opinion, it's all in the mix down if you ask me. It's just a shame it took me ages to realise it! |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Importance of a good sounding track:
Mastering 10%
Mixing 20%
Source sounds 70% |
Fixed. |
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| Kismet7 |
| A botch job master can a well tracked and mixed piece of music. Typically, want to stay away from mastering engineers that use mostly software. |
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| sixofour.604 |
Mastering is pretty much like the cherry on a sundaie. It tastes good, but you can also throw it out and you won't be missing much. Learn to make music and mix, then down the line, for novelty, you can learn to master your tracks if you hope to get big...if you don't plan on getting huge or getting paid, don't worry about it. A track is good or bad regardless to whether its mastered or not. There are more important things to worry about. I know people who release whole albums unmastered. Eveeryone was nonethewiser.
Mastering is like putting AA on an image, the image will be awesome or not byitself, and AA won't change that. AA isn't the deal breaker unless you are doing commision. [because for some reason marketing wants it to be retardedly perfect.
Or you can say mastering is the paintjob of a race car. The car and driver will win or loose the race by themselves, the paint job won't change it. [but a nice paintjob will net you more sponsors :P]
I'm saying this because the fact that you are asking if you need to learn mastering, is proof that you aren't at a level where you need to be concerned with it. |
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| BOOsTER |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
A botch job master can a well tracked and mixed piece of music. Typically, want to stay away from mastering engineers that use mostly software. |
send me a track of yours to master, I will do it for free and I will also do two versions, one with mastering hardware at my school's studio one at my home studio with software, you won't be able to tell the difference...I'll even bet on that if you like! |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by BOOsTER
send me a track of yours to master, I will do it for free and I will also do two versions, one with mastering hardware at my school's studio one at my home studio with software, you won't be able to tell the difference...I'll even bet on that if you like! |
This should be interesting. |
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| sixofour.604 |
| quote: | Originally posted by BOOsTER
send me a track of yours to master, I will do it for free and I will also do two versions, one with mastering hardware at my school's studio one at my home studio with software, you won't be able to tell the difference...I'll even bet on that if you like! |
Why would you hear a difference? You shouldn't "hear" mastering at all. Unless you can make the mastering completely transparent, you failed. That is why its so easy to kill a track when you try to "master" it. You are not supposed to change what you hear, that is for the mixing stages, mastering does things to the audio that shouldn't be heard. And if the mixing was done right, you probably have nothing for a mastering engineer to fix, and thus this is all uneeded.
People think mastering is "that stage that makes music sound good"...its a wrong thought. |
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