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Fellow JP8000 Owners (pg. 2)
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| djdarroo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Luke Terry
If there are any on here, I hope!
Do any of you find that the standard volume output of the synth is rather low?
Mine's always been like this, even with the volume and amp turned pretty much all the way round, and the volume on my soundcard set to max on the JP channel it's still showing about -15dB on the control panel.
I can turn the volume up on the variable signal level paramater on the M-Audio control panel in hardware settings but this fiercy pans the input to the right.
I've looked all over the internet and came up with nothing. If anybody has any ideas it would be great. |
more dynamics this way , more headroom? |
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| djdarroo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Luke Terry
Cheers for the replies, think I'm going to get a pre-amp for it as I'm using it a lot again now and it's doing my head in turning the volume down on the master to get a reasonable mixing level to hear what it's like in the track before freezing and boosting the signal.
It's definitely a lot quieter than my other gear I've had, especially stacked next to the Virus |
yo luke i need ur adivce.. i just got the jp8000, i have virus C , blofeld, supernova 2, yamaha cs6x
what mixer do u suggest i want to run all these synths same time and do a session. im really confused at the moment, |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdarroo
more dynamics this way , more headroom? |
No, less dynamics. You don't want the signal to be too loud, that is, to the point of clipping. But you do want to record a decent, strong signal, to take advantage of the full dynamic range. |
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| Luke Terry |
| quote: | Originally posted by No Left Turn
What M-Audio interface do you have?
I have a similar "problem" with my ProFire 2626. What I got from M-Audio is that the line inputs are calibrated for balanced inputs (+4dBu) only, which apparently has some kind of effect on the level of devices with unbalanced outputs (-10dBu). Devices with balanced outputs should not have this "low level input" problem.
Some audio interfaces don't have this problem because they either have a +4/-10 switch or their line inputs have some kind of detection that will automatically change it depending on the input source. |
I run the Delta 4/4 currently. What you have described is exactly the same problem.
Guess it's going to be something I have to live with until I upgrade the studio later on in the year.
djdarroo, to be honest I'm not sure. I'm looking at the same sort of question myself as I'm a bit sick of swapping gear in and out the Delta. |
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| Subtle |
Why dont you use the virus inputs ?
You can use the Virus external inputs to boost the JP`s volume, and even better you can then set the virus external inputs (direct through) to go through the synth at any time, meaning you can use both at the same time!
And even better better, you can set one of the definable knobs on the virus to control the volume of the direct through, so when you want to record you just adjust the definable knob to turn up or down the JP`s volume. |
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| Luke Terry |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Why dont you use the virus inputs ?
You can use the Virus external inputs to boost the JP`s volume, and even better you can then set the virus external inputs (direct through) to go through the synth at any time, meaning you can use both at the same time!
And even better better, you can set one of the definable knobs on the virus to control the volume of the direct through, so when you want to record you just adjust the definable knob to turn up or down the JP`s volume. |
I think that's what I will do for now cheers mate!
I need to do a bit of an overall per se though as I've got some more gear on the way soon :) |
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| studiobob |
or, instead of trying to turn everything up louder, why not turn the rest of your levels down to match it. :0)
to the guy who mentioned headroom. this way gives you more of it :) |
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| studiobob |
| No it gives more. as the signal is quieter. so theres a bigger gap between the loudest point of your song and 0DB |
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| djdarroo |
yeah more headroom.. lol thats a trick i use
lower all volumes to a low point then add a l2 maximixer threshold -25 : -.01DB no dithering (on master channel)
Then when your ready to render take it off the master channel and further master it with hardware for final mastering.. thats what i have learned anyways to make a mix sound "loud" |
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| djdarroo |
| by the way when i mean low volume im serious :D and make sure each instrument is smoothly blended with the other. take note your kick should be louder then the rest a bit. |
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| studiobob |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdarroo
yeah more headroom.. lol thats a trick i use
lower all volumes to a low point then add a l2 maximixer threshold -25 : -.01DB no dithering (on master channel)
Then when your ready to render take it off the master channel and further master it with hardware for final mastering.. thats what i have learned anyways to make a mix sound "loud" |
would be intrigued to hear what that actually sounds like... cant imagine it sounding great to be honest...
a limiter should be the last thing you need in your signal chain for mastering... what d you mean by master further?? more compression>? pointless cos you've just maxed out all your peaks... EQ?? better to add that in before limiting cos if your boosting frequencies after you've just limited it to -o.1 db your gonna get digital distortion. not cool |
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