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Complacency with our credit cards/passports/etc
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gehzumteufel
So, this just touched a nerve with me. A post on someones facebook about this new "edl" (RFID enhanced DL) and the need for it without a passport to drive in Canada.

How many people are actually aware that these are ing gold for an identity thief? How many of you know that you are less protected with these devices in your credit cards, passports, drivers license, etc?

If you are unaware of what I am talking about, you know those access cards that you get for work? Or if you are a government contractor? The ones you wave over a reader? That is the same exact technology. The difference? The ones in your credit cards and passports have no encryption. They have no security built into them.
tubularbills
don't be so damn paranoid Ben!

so what, you subscribe to life lock? put your social security number out there so everyone can see it and try to steal your identity but can't because you have life lock? :wtf:

:p
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by tubularbills
don't be so damn paranoid Ben!

so what, you subscribe to life lock? put your social security number out there so everyone can see it and try to steal your identity but can't because you have life lock? :wtf:

:p


lol if you call this paranoia, I must be nuts then. This kind of bothers the hell out of me. I have no real way to get around it with my passport, but I will be avoiding the ones on the credit cards like the plague. I refuse to entrust my financial stability in the hands of credit card issuers.
tubularbills
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
lol if you call this paranoia, I must be nuts then. This kind of bothers the hell out of me. I have no real way to get around it with my passport, but I will be avoiding the ones on the credit cards like the plague. I refuse to entrust my financial stability in the hands of credit card issuers.


but really, how often are YOU going to use your passport that someone would steal your identity from? i mean, do you use it as a form of ID in the US? why the would you do that? just keep it in a desk drawer and only take it out when you are leaving the country.

and then what, some stewardess (excuse me, "flight attendant") is going to steal your life when you show it to her as you're at the ticket counter? like there's this big ass conspiracy in the flying industry to steal american citizen's identities when they go to Canada of all places?

:p
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by tubularbills
but really, how often are YOU going to use your passport that someone would steal your identity from? i mean, do you use it as a form of ID in the US? why the would you do that? just keep it in a desk drawer and only take it out when you are leaving the country.

and then what, some stewardess (excuse me, "flight attendant") is going to steal your life when you show it to her as you're at the ticket counter? like there's this big ass conspiracy in the flying industry to steal american citizen's identities when they go to Canada of all places?

:p

You're missing the point man. It is in your credit cards, and they will eventually force it to be required on the drivers license. And there is NO security in these devices.

You are basically enabling the crooks the ability to steal your identity without ever actually even being less than 100ft from them.
d-miurge
Simple RFID is so 2000's... :o It's all about NFC now
tubularbills
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
You're missing the point man. It is in your credit cards, and they will eventually force it to be required on the drivers license. And there is NO security in these devices.

You are basically enabling the crooks the ability to steal your identity without ever actually even being less than 100ft from them.


so what, you're going to use cash everywhere then? and ride the bus so you don't have a driver's license?

lol, i'd like to see you ride a bus actually. i'd chuckle at it.
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by d-miurge
Simple RFID is so 2000's... :o It's all about NFC now

Is it more secure? Considering it is just an extension of the same technology, I would go with the way the CC companies will implement it, no.
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by tubularbills
so what, you're going to use cash everywhere then? and ride the bus so you don't have a driver's license?

lol, i'd like to see you ride a bus actually. i'd chuckle at it.

Will, this is exactly the complacency I was talking about. Taking the "what am I to do" stance. Don't get a card with it in it. Avoid the EDL if possible and get a proper protective sleeve for your passport.
Zharen
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Originally posted by tubularbills
but really, how often are YOU going to use your passport that someone would steal your identity from? i mean, do you use it as a form of ID in the US?

:p


Western Union accepts passports as a form of identification, including here in the US.

SuspicionVandit
I saw this in Metal Gear Solid 2.
The card actually does require a password.
The password is nothing less than the physiological data of the cardholder. The cardholders vital signs, heartbeat, blood pressure, brainwave pattern and so on are constantly monitored by his/her nanomachines. This information along with the DNA pattern serve as a biometric password, unbreakable even by the most advanced parallel processor supercomputers.
The password entry itself cannot be performed unless brainwave patterns and heartbeats fall within normal parameters, rendering chemical and other forms of coercion impractical.


in other words, the purchase must be made of the card holder's own free will.
funkehpants
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